• jonne@infosec.pub
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    So Tesla deliberately deleted the data and their executive lied about it under oath, but nobody’s going to jail for obstruction of justice or perjury?

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      Yup, pretty sure the DA gets to decide if a case is civil or criminal, and DAs all over the country are notoriously cowardly and pro-corporate. They probably considered the $250 million verdict (And the fact that they’d be indicting a CEO with a crack lawyer team) as justification for not pursuing a criminal case.

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      If corporations are people, why not just lock up the whole corporation, or maybe just the whole C-suite?

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        Yep, lock up the executives and nationalise the corporation for the duration of whatever jail term a natural person would get for the same crime.

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        That’s the beauty of the system. The CORPORATION gets in trouble, and the Corporation gets fined, and gets severely scolded. It takes all the blame for the actual people.

        It’s like Jesus dying on the cross for our sins, that sort of thing. Evangelical MAGA Morons should understand that kind of logical chaos.

        Ask FL Senator Rick Scott, who was the CEO for the biggest Medicaid fraud in history. His company got fined, he got fined, but he still walked away with about $250 million in stolen Federal money, and no jail time, for the biggest Medicaid fraud in history. He went on to be Governor, and now Senator, the whole time running against “career politicians,” as if he wasn’t a guy who has made every penny of his fortune off the government.

        He was just on video whining about how wrong it was to be discussing legislation to end insider trading by Senators, framing it as liberals wanting to keep people from “making money.” No, we want people to make money, but corrupt Senators like Rick Scott shouldn’t be able to have a massive loophole to make enormous piles of money for themselves, freely using an otherwise illegal mechanism that would put any of the rest of us in prison for years. It’s literally like legalizing bank robbery for Senators.

        No, you can’t make money that way.

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        Fine the shareholders. Harshly. That would put a stop to criminal activity pretty fast.

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      Unfortunately, you need to prove who specifically deleted it and who else ordered or knew of the deletion. Tough to prove in organized crime cases like this.

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      I really hope people start to realize that “law and justice” is (and for a lot people was) not a real thing.

      What you are feeling is the lack of justice that many of minority groups have felt for their lifetime. This is not a system of justice built for you.

      The difference in fascism is that the justice system does not work for the privileged working class anymore. It now only works for the privileged ruling class.

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      Not surprising since they’re part of the capital class. Our laws exist to bind the poor (workers) and to protect the rich