I have thought about this a lot, and I came across this Wikipedia page about a Russian book today, and this book about China’s plan, and it both terrified and enlightened me further. Based on these two pages (read them before reading this), I have a couple of additional thoughts (closer to conspiracy theories, but anyway):

  • The Israel-Hamas conflict (and a genocide) is a distraction from Russia and Iran (yes, they disregard human lives that much), to avoid people from figuring out their plans, keeping a far-right Israeli government, and distracting from Ukraine. It also allows for Iran (and thus Russia) to test against missile and drone defense systems in Israel (that are the best anyway, therefore anything that passes will shred through any Western nation).
  • Climate change isn’t ignored; rather, it is done purposely. If farming fails, we will be in starvation, allowing them to take us out/dominate us much more easily. Additionally, there are studies that prove an increased temperature leads to lower productivity, thus proving this hypothesis further — and Russia won’t feel as big of an impact there, especially in winter.
  • The “AI” hype is being funded by both Russia and China, to lower our critical thinking, also allowing us to be tricked and attacked more easily. Furthermore, it increases the speed of climate change, and takes away even more clean water from us. This allows them to be able to poison our waters much more easily, since only a select few freshwater points will be out there,
  • davel@lemmy.mlEnglish
    6·
    19 days ago

    They also don’t fear the suffering of their people.

    Buddy, Western powers don’t give a rat’s ass about our suffering either, nor the suffering of Palestinians, nor Ukrainians.

    If I was Putin, I’d be making huge carbon dioxide factories for no other purpose than to speed the process up.

    “If I was Putin a cartoon supervillain…” Russia’s not going to do anything remotely like that.

    It’s their only realistic shot at balancing their relationship with China and the West, who will all suffer far more than them.

    The working class of the Global South would suffer the most, not us in the Global North (i.e., the West).

    Basically take everyone else down by five pegs, but Russia only drops three. That’s a win.

    Okay, so this isn’t geopolitical material analysis, it’s fantasies emanating from your mind palace.

    Russia’s blatantly pro-pollution behavior

    Where’s the evidence that Russia is a profoundly worse polluter than other countries, or is this just vibes? US military is a bigger polluter than as many as 140 countries

    I lost all faith in Jill Stein and our Green Party though.

    It’s a year later and you’re still obsessed with Jill Stein, who had no material affect on the election whatsoever? Because she sat at the same table as Putin once, ten years ago?

    • thatonecoder@lemmy.caOP
      1·
      15 days ago

      Where’s the evidence that Russia is a profoundly worse polluter than other countries, or is this just vibes? US military is a bigger polluter than as many as 140 countries

      As my theory goes, Russia is letting the Western countries do the dirty work, by manipulating elections to favour far-right movements, or at least disseminating disinformation (the latter is the dominant one, since it is much more effective). As such, they (Russia) do not really need to make those “carton villain-like polluting machines” — all they need is to talk us into doing that, with the bonus that Russia has plausible deniability.

    • Carrolade@lemmy.worldEnglish
      13·
      18 days ago

      Alright, let’s try this again, then.

      Democracies have a mechanism by which the leaders are accountable to their voters. If your voters are upset with you, you will not win reelection. Autocracies do not have this mechanism, and have less to fear from the concerns of their populace.

      You can mock me if you like, but this does not contradict my idea. I suppose I have less faith in a global leader, perhaps?

      I was not talking about the south, nor was I talking about who on Earth would suffer the most. I was comparing how it would effect two specific groups: Russians and westerners.

      More mockery, which apparently is “nicer” than my reply, though I’m not sure how. Does not actually contradict my point, though.

      Russia has made no significant efforts to combat climate change. China and western countries have, making significant investments into green energy production.

      Less obsessed, and more disappointed, as a former Green voter. And not just because she sat at a table, but because she started regularly featuring Russian state media talking points in her positions. I expect my environmentalist leaders to fight for environmental causes against polluters, of which Russia is a significant one. Supporting Russian “needs” in Ukraine is not that. It’s not about an election, it’s about a betrayal of core values.

      • davel@lemmy.mlEnglish
        4·
        18 days ago

        My guy,

        1. Nobody else is reading any of this, which means no one else is getting anything out of it;
        2. You’re out of your depth, retreading liberal arguments that I’ve investigated and dismissed years ago, so you’re almost definitely not going to convince me of anything;
        3. You’re not here to learn anything new; you’re here to win an argument on the internet;
        4. So there’s obviously no point in continuing. I suggest using your time more productively.
        • Carrolade@lemmy.worldEnglish
          22·
          18 days ago

          I don’t post for other people, I post for my own enjoyment. I’m also very stubborn. If it was for other people, I wouldn’t bother with threads once they become old, but I actually very frequently do.

          What liberal argument, that an autocrat has less to fear from his people than someone who was voted in? How did you manage to dismiss that one, or was it something else?

          Actually, I’m here more generally to enjoy myself. You are correct that I do not come to social media to learn, though it is a good place to find niche articles sometimes.

          Oh well.