• surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    Incorrect. Trump is just as much of a Zionist as Biden. Israeli officials already revealed that the Biden admin never gave them any pushback whatsoever behind closed doors.

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      13 days ago

      I’ve explained clearly before. If you can’t get a progressive in office or suitable third party you should vote for harm minimization; which is likely to be dem. There are more elections than just presidential. If you abstain your getting out of the way for the worst. That makes you a bad ally.

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          13 days ago

          Here we have on display the smug, ignorant elitism that destroys political movements. Ignore this person for they are no one’s ally but themselves.

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            No, they’re just not your ally. And because you’re a smug, ignorant elitist, you assume they aren’t anyone else’s. But they are.

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              Given I haven’t put forth much of an opinion or really anything of substance here, you don’t actually know if I’m smug, ignorant, or an elitist - you’re just pulling insults out of your arse. In fact, you’re just parroting what I said in my last comment. You’re not even original.

              According to your other comment, where you claim resorting to lazy insults means one has nothing, you admit to having nothing. Excellent self own, A++.

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            13 days ago

            What “movement” are they promoting? Reformist centrism is pretending to be a “movement” now? LoL. Nice try.

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          13 days ago

          You’re no ally of mine.

          Well if not for me; do it for those towing a rifle in Palestine. They need as much respite as they can get.

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            13 days ago

            Oh that’s right, you’re a genocide denier when it comes to the Democrats role in Gaza

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                  13 days ago

                  No I don’t. Corporate dems are still problematic and need to be replaced long term. Still the dem party is still the homeof our progressive movement and we should work to grow it. Voting for the candidates that minimise harm still gas material impact for Palestine and domestic vulnerable groups. Not everyone has a mamdami on their ballot. If you abstain your just letting your peers down and giving them less space to thrive and build local support groups. If you keep discouraging people from voting then your no different from the dems in the meme that keep the wheel from moving back left.

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                    13 days ago

                    Then why do you keep insisting that the Dems were not doing genocide in Gaza?

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        13 days ago

        At least you’re admitting you supported genocide to maintain the status quo you enjoyed. No problem with Biden deporting 250% more people than Trump, because he did it quietly and with decorum!

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        13 days ago

        So they were both fascists then, and apparently exterminating two million people is “effective politics” and “upholding the status quo”.

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      13 days ago

      They know that, they’ve been told repeatedly in the past. They’re just a willful denialist when it comes to the Democrats role in genocide.