• But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    The American left constantly punching left even when they’re losing is why the American right ate your lunch. You guys cannot abide allies or any other leftists that aren’t of the exact same stripe, while the right unified. As a non American you guys make our head hurt

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      47 minutes ago

      It’s more complicated than the mainstream narrative would let on. In the US the Democrats are a center right party, they’re more or less in agreement with what the previous republican administrations wanted, with the exception of a few gender related issues (LGBT, women’s rights, abortion). The new GOP is just much more extreme than usual. The Dems see this and are actively moving further right to try and get the leftover scraps of the extremists.

      For example, most of the infrastructure that trump is using to round up brown people is stuff that was built under biden/obama. Deep down both parties want this, they’re just using it to bash each other as a matter of tradition.

      The left is actually quite ideologically unified at this point, especially compared to historical trends. It’s better to think of the US as in a 3 party system where you have extreme right, center right, and a broad coalition of leftists, but all the infrastructure is only setup to allow two parties.

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      5 hours ago

      But… But… Biden and harris were complacent in the Gaza genocide and even though the opposition would be worse and do more damage elsewhere, I just couldn’t vote for imperfect. 🫠

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        I think what really caused Harris to lose was the constant everything is great and I won’t change anything messaging. People were struggling and she offered nothing.

        Trump did offer something, but anyone with a memory greater than 4 years should have remembered his promises are lies, but here we are.

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          46 minutes ago

          Harris and Biden all thought facts would help. Facts are great for policy decisions, not great for convincing people to support you.

          If facts say that the economy is booming and everyone is off better however I don’t feel it, I don’t see it in my local community. Then fuck off with your facts.

          Trumpie understands this. Any good sales person will tell you feelings are what closes sales. Trumpie harped on everyone’s feelings. People felt like the economy was leaving them behind AGAIN. Trumpie speaks like the common person, he’s able to relate to people. This is how Trumpie cons people. I imagine if you ran an analysis on all of Trumpie’s campaign statements, you wouldn’t find specific numbers. General, vague numbers at best.

          It’s why Obama and Sanders can attract sell out crowds. Both of them know feelings are more important than facts.

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            This right here is another example of the issue. It’s not “facts” that the economy was good for the average citizen. Yes our economy was performing well, but our metrics are not designed to tell us how well people are affording rent or groceries. It’s designed to tell us how much is being produced. We can be more productive than ever, but that doesn’t matter if housing has never been more unaffordable for the average American.

            We measure the economy based on the needs of capital, not the workers.