• Pup Biru@aussie.zone
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      22 hours ago

      yup! that’s shit, but politics is politics… i’d probably say the same: an nyc mayor has very little that they can change about foreign policy

      so what are you gonna be? a populist that says a bunch of shit that you can’t actually change or won’t address the issue, or someone who talks about policy and what you’re going to do if elected in concrete terms?

      no point in pissing off israel and having them spend against you just to protect their soft power if you can’t even do anything about it

      … and everyone now knows cuomo is the israel shill, and mamdani supports palestine… he’s won that conversation already. nothing to be gained by further pushing in that direction

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        21 hours ago

        Nah man. Going “moderate” would be a huge mistake. AIPAC is always going to finance whoever is the most loudly pro-Zionist. People don’t want careful political maneuvering, they want firm principles.

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          21 hours ago

          nyc mayoral races uses ranked choice voting

          don’t make the mistake of applying first past the post logic to ranked choice… the difference in ballot mechanics has a really huge difference: ranked choice leads to nicer, more moderate elections because it’s bad to be extreme (and i’m not saying being anti-israel is extreme) - you don’t just need to capture “your base” (what we usually call the “primary vote” or “first preference” in RCV systems), but you also need to worry about 2nd, 3rd etc runoff votes… you need to be generally likeable to all your opponents voters too, because those votes matter

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            18 hours ago

            But if you dilute your politics in order to win… then what’s the point of winning? It won’t even be “you” that’s won, it will be some gray, moderate shadow of yourself. Anyway, I think my point is still relevant no matter the election style. There are a whole lot of people out there that put a high value on (perceived) integrity. Trump and Bernie are good examples where they brought in a lot of voters who thought “I may not agree with him on a lot of things, but he tells it like it is and he maintains his positions, even when they aren’t popular”.

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              14 hours ago

              nobody with extreme views should win (and i do not think mamdanis views are extreme - they’re what people want!) anyone who wins an election to represent people should represent the views of the people, and that absolutely means being moderate: not in the toxic way that it’s come to mean in the US, but truly government should, as one of its primary missions, be a moderated representation of the constituents it serves: it should never (as much as possible) represent only a single group