But all displayed item from bottom panel is item from the 80s and 90s though, so precomputerised kinda either mean carburetor or primitive ecu that only control very limited function and can’t scanned with a scanner tool, which is still imo bad. As an automechanic I certainly doesn’t want to go back to scratching my head trying to figure out what’s wrong.
Edit: not to be too pedantic about it, but that’s what i get from this comic.
There were a few sites that tracked manufacturer adoption of when the telemetry black boxes got installed, but I cannot find the specific ones I referenced a few years ago. You can “shop” for telemetry insurance and check that way too. The car won’t be eligible if it doesn’t have the hardware.
In the EU, cars have to be equipped with automatic emergency call systems since 2018. So probably since then most brands will have had it, as they are required to have cell connection hardware anyway.
On one hand, firmware update sound really nice so lemon isn’t as sour. On the other hand, good, reliable car have absolutely 0 chance of getting enshittified by car maker, and they have to make sure the thing is good from the get go or risk getting forced to recall.
My favourite cars to own were made between 2003 to 2011. They’re so peaceful to drive compared to modern cars that constantly fucking screech and ding at you just for starting the damn thing.
Same here, mine is 2006 and already quite computerized for my taste.
But recently I did a trip in a 2020s car and it was … disconcerting. First of all it was automatic which I’m not used to. Unable to get it in gear, the 9yo boy in the backseat said: look at the screen, it’s telling you what to do!. He was right. Even so the car would not let me back into a patch of high grass, kept blocking the wheels. Jarringly.
No one want to fiddle with carburetor anymore thank you very much.
And tbh, 2010-2015 is comfortable enough and less bullshit.
Pretty sure they mean computerized interiors like infotainment systems. Probably not talking about ECU and internal computerized parts.
But all displayed item from bottom panel is item from the 80s and 90s though, so precomputerised kinda either mean carburetor or primitive ecu that only control very limited function and can’t scanned with a scanner tool, which is still imo bad. As an automechanic I certainly doesn’t want to go back to scratching my head trying to figure out what’s wrong.
Edit: not to be too pedantic about it, but that’s what i get from this comic.
Pre-telemetry cars from the naughties are the sweet spot. No cell connection either. New cars are icky.
When did this start to be a standard feature anyhow, and how does adoption track across brands & timeline?
There were a few sites that tracked manufacturer adoption of when the telemetry black boxes got installed, but I cannot find the specific ones I referenced a few years ago. You can “shop” for telemetry insurance and check that way too. The car won’t be eligible if it doesn’t have the hardware.
In the EU, cars have to be equipped with automatic emergency call systems since 2018. So probably since then most brands will have had it, as they are required to have cell connection hardware anyway.
On one hand, firmware update sound really nice so lemon isn’t as sour. On the other hand, good, reliable car have absolutely 0 chance of getting enshittified by car maker, and they have to make sure the thing is good from the get go or risk getting forced to recall.
I agree the examples are all over the place.
My favourite cars to own were made between 2003 to 2011. They’re so peaceful to drive compared to modern cars that constantly fucking screech and ding at you just for starting the damn thing.
Same here, mine is 2006 and already quite computerized for my taste.
But recently I did a trip in a 2020s car and it was … disconcerting. First of all it was automatic which I’m not used to. Unable to get it in gear, the 9yo boy in the backseat said: look at the screen, it’s telling you what to do!. He was right. Even so the car would not let me back into a patch of high grass, kept blocking the wheels. Jarringly.
I think that’s more aimed at Internet connected vehicles than those with an ECU.
Speak for yourself, there’s nothing wrong with my carburettor!
My distributor on the other hand is a pain in the ass. Electronic ignition has its upsides…