• Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
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    11 hours ago

    Are you seriously using denmark as an example of car dependence?
    This is the extent of the danish rail network in 1930, there is no reason any part of denmark needs to be car dependent.

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      10 hours ago

      Yes I am. I don’t expect people to ride a bike 10 km til at bus station in places where it’s simply not feasible to make bike lanes.

      Edit. Not to mention. You ride a bike 10 km to a bus, then take that bus for 20 minutes to a trainstation, then wait anything between 5 to 55 minutes for a train to show up, then ride that train for 1 hour to get to a big city, and then take another bus for 20 minutes to your job. No way am I spending 4+ hours in transport every day, if a car can do it in 1,5 hours.

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        10 hours ago

        your country is the size of the netherlands and equally flat, what precisely is the reason they can do it and danes can’t?

        Also, 10km at e-bike speed (25 km/h) is not even half an hour, and if there aren’t tons of cars on the roads then you don’t need bike infrastructure beyond covered parking, so what’s the problem with biking that distance?

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          10 hours ago

          But can the Netherlands do it? Do they only bike in the rural parts?

          Sure, if people could just ride 10 km and then be at work, I see the point in it. But there are A LOT of places that are much further from the bigger cities where the actual jobs are. Out there you’d need to ride 10 km to even get to a bus, that may or may not come by once every hour. That bus can take you to a trainstation where a train will usually come by every hour. Then you can take that train to a bigger city where you can work, but that can easily be an hour. So at this point, if you time your initial bike trip to the bus right, you may already spend in excess of 2 hours, just to get to a large city where the jobs are. Now you need to take another bus to get to your actual job. Meaning 4+ hours round trip. It is not feasible for a person with family to do this.

          Sure the person can just move to the city, where houses cost 5x more, and simple appartments cost half their paycheck.