as a parent it is still not your job to make it easy, yeah?

As a parent it’s your job to make it safe. They will do it, you can’t stop it. But if you allow it, if any problem arise they will not hesitate to ask for help immediately, and that’s the most important.
You can provide them contraception and morning pills and not rely on their teenage hormone filled brains to get it themselves. If they’re doing it in your home, they will less likely to do it while drunk under the bridge.
It is similar to alcohol situation. If your teenager wants to drink alcohol, it’s better you give them guidelines and help, and it’s better they get a six pack of beers with their friend in your home, than a bottle of moonshine with their 29 years old buddy Craig they met in a toilet of a waffle house.

You have lost sympathy for people but not for the system in which it costs money to shit.

This is also a “you” problem. Fix that at your earliest convenience.

No, I’ve never lived in US. Why?

I started to observe a pattern recently, when people on this platform refuse to read the text of the comment they’re replying to. It leads to all kinds of bad faith arguments.
Don’t be like that. Read the text, and engage with the text, not with what you imagined someone might say to you.

There is no The Line, obviously. It’s all decided on case-by-case basis, and decisions have to be made in context. The only thing you can do in advance is to answer the question “do you prefer momentary efficiency, or do you prefer safety” and then go from there.

Can you give some examples? I really don’t understand what you’re talking about

I’ll take ruined fun over ruined lives.

Well, eventually.

Ok.

I clicked one once by accident when trying to select it. You can be as diligent as you want you still will slip up from time to time

That’s the whole point, when you do useless shit like buying from one corpo instead of another, they only need to buy couple of politicians to succeed. The only way for you to combat it is to elect politicians they can’t buy and apply political pressure to the rest of them, so they can’t buy them all. If instead of that you play their game and try to outbuy a corpo that owns half of your country already, not only you will lose every time, you are actually what doing exactly they want you to do.
“No ethical consumption under capitalism” is about this, not anything else.

3 or 5 was always my goto. That being said, I didn’t have to write anything by hand in the last 15 years, and I’m pretty much forgot how it’s done

Voting with the wallet is mostly bullshit, it’s a myth corpos are telling people so we regulate them less. They have so much power to inject themselves into human’s lives, make themselves part of your existence. You can for example try to walletvote Microsoft out of your life whatever the fuck you want, while you were trying it, they bought a politician or twelve, and now they’re part of your government, your education system, your military, and your finance sector.
While democracy still exists, the only way to fight corpos is the governmental power or regulations.

Companies that do anti-consumer practices shouldn’t think it’s the norm. The more we fuck Apple, the less other companies think that it’s OK to fuck consumers.

The things I am talking about are applied to the development process before you start writing code. Rules from NASA’s the power of 10, MISRA, ISO-26262, DO-178C, and so on, as well as the general experience and understanding of the data flow or memory management. Stuff like that you fundamentally can’t apply to a system that takes random pieces of text from the Internet and puts it into a string until it looks like something.

There is an enormous gray zone between so called good code (which might actually not exist), and bad code that doesn’t work and has obvious problems from the beginning. That’s the most dangerous part of it, when your code looks like something that can pass your “Turing test”, that’s where the most insidious parts get introduced, and since you completely removed that planning part and all the written in blood rules it introduced, and you eliminated experience element, you basically have to treat all the code as the most malicious parts of it, and since it’s impossible, you just dropped your standards to the ground.

It’s like pouring sugar into concrete. When there is a lot of it, it’s obvious and concrete will never set. When there is just enough of it, it will, but structurally it will be undetectably weaker, and you have no idea when it will crack.

Is it possible that all of that is in your head and it’s just your insecurities talking? It’s actually super common to feel like your friends don’t like you because you were super awkward, when in reality it’s exclusively in your head. I’ve been on both sides of this situation multiple times, and 100% of the time it was absolutely a false feeling.

I have Aftershokz, and for what they are, they’re better than most of the in ear buds I tried. Better quality, cleaner sound.

Any human written code can and will introduce UB.

And there is enormous amount of safeguards, tricks, practices and tools we come up with to combat it. All of those are categorically unavailable to an autocomplete tool, or a tool who exclusively uses autocomplete tool to code.

Also I don’t see how you will take more that 5 second to verify that a given function does not exist. It has happen to me, llm suggesting unexisting function. And searching by function name in the docs is instantaneous.

Which means you can work with documentation. Which means you really, really don’t need the middle layer, like, at all.

I haven’t run into any of those catastrophic issues.

Glad you didn’t, but also, I’ve reviewed enough generated code to know that a lot of the time people think they’re OK, when in reality they just introduced an esoteric memory leak in a critical section. People who didn’t do it by themselves, but did it because LLM told them to.

I you don’t want to use it don’t.

It’s not about me. It’s about other people introducing shit into our collective lives, making it worse.

That’s why you use unit test and integration test.

Good start, but not even close to being enough. What if code introduces UB? Unless you specifically look for that, and nobody does, neither unit nor on-target tests will find it. What if it’s drastically ineffective? What if there are weird and unusual corner cases?
Now you spend more time looking for all of that and designing tests that you didn’t need to do if you had proper practices from the beginning.

It would probably a nice idea to do some kind of turing test, a put a blind test to distinguish the AI written part of some code, and see how precisely people can tell it apart.

But that’s worse! You do realise how that’s worse, right? You lose all the external ways to validate the code, now you have to treat all the code as malicious.

For instance, to seek for specific functions in C# extensive libraries.

And spend twice as much time trying to understand why can’t you find a function that your LLM just invented with absolute certainty of a fancy autocomplete. And if that’s an easy task for you, well, then why do you need this middle layer of randomness. I can’t think of a reason why not to search in the documentation instead of introducing this weird game of “will it lie to me”