edit: seems like some people interpret “full of” as a mathematical majority which, while it may or might not be true instance to instance, isn’t my intent in posting

feel free to swap in “has a lot of” if that’s more familiar language to you :)

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    I did actually read your comment, I just didn’t entirely agree with you you condescending ass.

    MLKs daughter never voted without the civil rights act. You forgot to add 18 to the age someone would need to be to have voted before the act passed.
    Most of the southern electorate is neither 78 or older, or even 60.
    The point was that it’s not a convincing argument, not that someone isn’t alive who was impacted.

    I’m not sure what class disenfranchisement has to do with the part you’re angry about. Maybe if you actually read what I said you’d have seen where I mentioned it for the rest of the comment.

    If you’re not even going to read what people say, you have no grounds to complain that people aren’t “being a genuine participant”.

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      me: lists evidence of voter suppression in 1920, 1965, and today

      you: THAT WAS OVER 60 YEARS AGO

      me: i don’t think you saw the part where i said “today”

      you: name calling

      i love this website so much

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        Yeah, you’re not a good faith conversational actor. Go back and reread what I initially wrote. So far you’re responding more to being called an ass for being rude than to “ignoring a culture war means dead trans kids”.

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          yeah :( exactly. this conversation was about voting suppression and somehow you immediately jumped to the assumption that me recognizing that there’s an oppressed minority of good people (INCLUDING TRANS FOLKS BY THE WAY) who have by and large been kept from democratic self-determination through systemic forces means…

          (shuffles chronically online internet argument deck)

          that i want to ignore trans rights?

          for the record, no, i believe the opposite. i believe that my trans neighbors (and family, fyi) in the south exist and are worthy of recognition and support, in spite of the voting bloc they are surrounded by and historically been kept from engaging with.

          i hope this is informative and corrects your misconstruals. you are shadow boxing against a position that i don’t think anyone here has. feel free to ask any questions as i am willing to give the benefit of the doubt that this was an honest misunderstanding.

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      thanks for the personal attack i guess lol you are so cool online wow so cool

      still you act like 60 years is some kind of insurmountable gap in history and that’s so cringe. the echoes of slavery and native american genocide echo from before 1776 through today. MLK didn’t magically die and then fix every barrier Black people suffered in life. that’s pretty basic history lol.

      I’m not sure what class disenfranchisement has to do with the part you’re angry about.

      all of it you silly goose. disenfranchisement means “depriving someone of the right to vote.” when the poor are depreived of the right to vote (not directly by law, but indirectly by systemic barriers), it means shocker they don’t vote. this entire thread is in response to someone saying “i guess but they voted for that too.” that’s the context you butted into, i operate on the pretty fair premise that you knew that and read the thread. :)

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        Who said the lingering effects of slavery didn’t have an impact? You said the voting rights act and universal suffrage being recent meant that a lot of people in the south were disenfranchised before them, hence they couldn’t vote for the way things are. Most people in the south did not have their voting rights impacted by policy before those to effect because they weren’t alive.
        That’s why I didn’t say systemic racism doesn’t exist, or that economic or political disenfranchisement doesn’t exist, I said that those aren’t compelling evidence to make the valid point you’re going for. I then proceeded to talk about other stuff related to your post, which you would know if you bothered to read instead of assuming that anyone that didn’t entirely agree with you must be disingenuous.

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          hence they couldn’t vote for the way things are

          and still can’t. voter repression still happens. in 2025. said it before. you ignored it. brought it back up again. you called me an ass. said it a third time, and you called me bad faith.

          i gave a timeline of problems (A B C) and you ignored the most recent, most relevant, date in the timeline (C) three times. three times you ignored C. just to be clear. my point is C. the current ongoing crisis is C. C is the issue i am concerned about in making this entire post. C is proof that the progress of A and B has not come to fruition.

          thank you for your time.