edit: seems like some people interpret “full of” as a mathematical majority which, while it may or might not be true instance to instance, isn’t my intent in posting

feel free to swap in “has a lot of” if that’s more familiar language to you :)

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    (edit: i came to an understanding with the person im responding to and i was not happy with how this comment was worded so deleting it because it wasn’t contributing)

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      I mean for sure it’s the entire country, with only depressingly slight variations in concentration one way or the other - but your image is about southerners specifically, so that’s what I addressed.

      …and honestly, it scales up as high as you want to take it - for the most part, humans are just evil sacks of shit.

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        There ya go. I fully agree with you here. 👍 Sending love to you as “one of the good ones.” (Sorry that sounds mean but I don’t know how to put it XD)

        [Again apologies if my initial comment came off as abrasive. My entire post is a reaction to some crowds cheering on the recent tragedy in Texas and it’s clear now you are not anywhere near a part of that crowd and I misread the situation.]

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          No worries at all. Typing is a shitty medium for this kind of conversation: tone is mostly lost. I’m guilty all the time of making posts that sound 10x angrier than I intended. …or angry at all: usually I’m bouncing somewhere between numb, depressed, or caffeine-induced mania. I’m not really ever mad or aggressive; but then I’ll re-read a post I made the day prior and realize it comes off as absolutely pissed which is pretty much never the intention at the time of posting.

          I do tend to use profanity pretty casually… maybe it’s that?

          But yeah, when in doubt, read an internet-stranger’s post in the voice of Eeyore. Sometimes the words alone just don’t do the trick.

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            (Personally for me it was the “cousin fucking” language that gave me the wrong impression. Not to tone police, that’s just kind of how I got to where I was because that’s very common in circles that tend to do dehumanizing .)

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      With the victory of the current administration, you are applying a description of unequivocally the entire nation and relagating it only to those of the lowest income, those closest to historical slavery, and those with the fewest educational opportunities.

      As another person who works in a hospital of one of the poorest and most conservative states in the union…I don’t think you really know what you are talking about.

      First of all, there is no such thing as a basic definition of what makes up good people and bad people. You can be good to your family and your neighbors and be incredibly racist, bigoted, or just unempathetic towards anyone else outside your daily life.

      What I notice about the South the most is the inability to be compassionate to anyone who isn’t right in front of them.

      think if you engage more thoughtfully with historical realities you might begin to come to a different understanding.

      Historical realities can negatively shape culture… What about the Souths history leads you to believe that most of southerners are “good people” and how exactly do you quantify good?

      No offense, but do you live in the South? And if so…are you a person of color or another minority, because if not you may not be getting the full experience.

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        most of southerners are “good people”

        Strawman, reread the entire post bud. Looks like they just misunderstood.

        “The south is full of good people” (verbatim quote from my post, objectively true, yes from my own experience and yes minorities) DOES NOT mean “most of southerners are good people” (verbatim YOUR bad-faith interpretation of my post).

        Feel free to try again but as a principle I don’t defend positions I never said in my life.

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          Strawman, reread the entire post bud.

          I think that’s a pedantic dispute considering you’ve made rebuttals against people claiming that good people were out numbered. Plus, what does “full of” even mean when it comes to judging the general morality of southern people? I think the generalization of the south being full of good people reads quite a bit differently than there are some good people in the South.

          objectively true, yes from my own experience and yes minorities)

          Generalities cannot be objectively true… Implying that something is full of good people implies a majority, as in a glass fullof milk, is not also full of water.

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            ah. feel free to swap in “lots of” instead of “full of” then.

            sounds like a regional misunderstanding which you unintentionally misconstrued.

            people are not liquids in containers. something like “the government is full of corruption” doesn’t mean “more than fifty percent of government workers are corrupt” it just means “lots of corrupt people in government, can’t ignore that” and i would be more than willing to swap the verbage

            glad to clear this up as i genuinely didn’t expect that that would be misunderstood

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              sounds like a regional misunderstanding which you unintentionally misconstrued.

              Maybe it’s a regional thing…but I don’t think I’m the only one who interpreted it that way.

              But yeah, there are plenty of decent people in the South, I wouldn’t argue against that. I would argue it’s a smaller minority than in some of the other places I’ve lived though.

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                but I don’t think I’m the only one who interpreted it that way.

                i recognize that! good to know for the future and i also put an edit to the OP to clarify

                🤝