• PugJesus@lemmy.worldOP
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    “Next, think back to your decision not to vote in 2024. You will see issues that some say may have impacted their decision whether or not to vote. For each of those, please say how you feel about that issue.” And in every category, the data YOU provided shows that most people who didn’t vote WEREN’T GOING TO VOTE ANYWAY.

    Holy fucking shit, are you being serious here? Are you literally incapable of parsing what you just quoted?

    the issue which swayed most people NOT to vote wasn’t a lefty issue like gaza, climate change, or abortion access, it was IMMIGRATION, which is an issue literally everyone on the political spectrum cares about in some way shape or form.

    … no, the issue was inflation, not immigration, by the numbers you literally quoted, but apparently can’t read. Furthermore, it was the most important issue by a whopping 3%, with ‘lefty issues’ like abortion, democracy, immigration, and climate change making up 61% of 2020 Biden voters who chose not to vote in 2024.

    Furthermore, YOUR study that YOU linked is pretty clear that most people didn’t stop voting because they didn’t like the issues, it was because they don’t trust EITHER party to run the government.

    What… what the ever-loving fuck do you think ‘not trusting’ a party on an issue means, exactly?

    Christ. Do I have to hold your hand just to get you to read a paper?

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      I misread, sue me. Yeah it was inflation which is again an across the board issue. Again not a lefty issue. And yeah, lefty issues made up 60%, but nowhere in that paper did it state how much overlap between issues. Again, we don’t have the numbers to back it up, but I bet you all the money in my pocket versus all the money in your pockets that at least half of the people who reported that Gaza swayed their decision ALSO reported that climate change, and abortion swayed their vote. And nice try adding in immigration and democracy as ‘lefty issues’ as if they’re not ALSO across the board issues.

      And not trusting a party on an issue is only really relevent if there’s only one or two issues that people don’t trust the party on. When people do not trust the party on 90% of the issues, they don’t trust the fucking party. Which is exactly why 62% of democrats want new leadership in the party and that’s just DEMOCRATS. Not even counting left leaning independents.

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        I misread, sue me.

        It would seem to be a very consistent pattern with you.

        And yeah, lefty issues made up 60%, but nowhere in that paper did it state how much overlap between issues. Again, we don’t have the numbers to back it up, but I bet you all the money in my pocket versus all the money in your pockets that at least half of the people who reported that Gaza swayed their decision ALSO reported that climate change, and abortion swayed their vote.

        The total is only 158%, so only half of the average respondents would only have been able to signify even a single other issue as important to their vote. This is called basic numeracy. They teach it in most schools.

        And nice try adding in immigration and democracy as ‘lefty issues’ as if they’re not ALSO across the board issues.

        … fucking what? Are you taking the piss right now?

        And not trusting a party on an issue is only really relevent if there’s only one or two issues that people don’t trust the party on. When people do not trust the party on 90% of the issues, they don’t trust the fucking party. Which is exactly why 62% of democrats want new leadership in the party and that’s just DEMOCRATS. Not even counting left leaning independents.

        And it’s more left-leaning leadership Democratic voters want, right?

        … right…?

        Maybe operating with the same boggle-eyed religious conviction that Republicans do about the Silent Majority wherein everyone secretly agrees with you, and all evidence to the contrary is a liberal conspiracy, is a bad way to approach politics?