• dastanktal@lemmy.ml
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    17 hours ago

    Lot of harm reduction the democrats did from 2020-2024.

    Forgive me if I don’t want to give them another chance.

    I’m going green or PSL from now on.

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      16 hours ago

      If you pretend like Biden didn’t pass the inflation reduction act, infrastructure act, CHIPS and science act, emergency rental assistance, Covid relief and vaccine requirements, and tons of other things.

      Then yeah, Biden didn’t do anything.

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      13 hours ago

      Ah, the harm intensification strategy. You have fun with the blood of millions more minorities on your hands. I bet it’ll make you feel real good - unironically, since people like you are rarely capable of self-reflection or perceiving realities uncomfortable to your preconceptions.

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        13 hours ago

        Yes because we all know voting solves everything and you can officially pat yourself in the back voting and take a break from doing literally any other work. You know like more importantly volunteering in your local organizations that actually handle local problems unlike the Democrats.

        Pat yourself on the back knowing you did everything you could have simply by voting for the Democrats and advocating for more failed policies that haven’t changed anything in the better part of 20 years.

        Good to see you come found my other comment though. Must have struck a nerve.

        Must be all that anxiety about the actual reality of the situation.

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          13 hours ago

          Yes because we all know voting solves everything and you can officially pat yourself in the back voting and take a break from doing literally any other work.

          That’s literally the opposite of what harm reduction means, but I guess the analogy in the OP was too complex for you. Sorry, I’ll try to find a simpler one next time. And a spoon to feed it to you.

          Pat yourself on the back knowing you did everything you could have simply by voting for the Democrats and advocating for more failed policies that haven’t changed anything in the better part of 20 years.

          Do you not fucking remember what things were like 20 years ago?

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            13 hours ago

            Yeah women could get abortions without being prosecuted by the police, immigrants weren’t harassed consistently by Department that we should never have created, and Trump was laughing stock.

            Now let’s look at the Democrat position 20 years ago and see what the Bill Clinton administration managed to achieve. They managed to get rid of almost all the manufacturing jobs in the United States through NAFTA. Oh that we nearly have the national debt paid off on the sweat and tears and blood of all the money that was clawed from the masses in order to do it. To be fair he was a lot cooler than trump. At least he got a blowjob in the white house without having to pay for it although he did have to abuse his position of power.?

            Those the 20 years ago you were talking about?

            Sure I get where you’re coming from that Minority Rights have gotten better kind of but minimum wage hasn’t increased, nobody can afford a house, and nobody can afford to go to school, forget trying to create a business.

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              13 hours ago

              Yeah women could get abortions without being prosecuted by the police, immigrants weren’t harassed consistently by Department that we should never have created,

              Are you… are you fucking taking the piss?

              Now let’s look at the Democrat position 20 years ago and see what the Bill Clinton administration managed to achieve. They managed to get rid of almost all the manufacturing jobs in the United States through NAFTA. Oh that we nearly have the national debt paid off on the sweat and tears and blood of all the money that was clawed from the masses in order to do it.

              … you do remember that 20 years ago was 2005, right?

              Sure I get where you’re coming from that Minority Rights have gotten better kind of but minimum wage hasn’t increased, nobody can afford a house, and nobody can afford to go to school, forget trying to create a business.

              Minority rights getting better is not fucking nothing, Obamacare and Medicaid expansion isn’t fucking nothing, the Dems, since 2000, taking significantly more pro-labor positions than in the Clinton years isn’t fucking nothing, the Dems adopted a 15$ minimum wage in their party platform isn’t fucking nothing, tax credits for first-time home buyers wasn’t fucking nothing, student loan forgiveness wasn’t fucking nothing, proposals for massive investment in subsidies for small businesses and decreasing taxes on small businesses whilst simultaneously increasing taxes on large corporations wasn’t fucking nothing.

              But hey, let’s electorally punish the Dems for changing for the better because it’s not enough, I’m sure that will really rouse voters to become even MORE left-wing!

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                12 hours ago

                Yep let’s continue to burn more people’s Goodwill an energy on electoralism when it’s been shown over and over and over again to give a completely watered-down nigh banded compromises on the problems they promise to fix. That’s so much better and certainly won’t lead to people getting political burnout and political apathy since nothing they’re doing is changing anything.

                Minority rights didn’t get better because of the Democrats. It’s not like they were in charge leading the whole social change to minority rights. That distinct honor goes to various socialists and anticapitalist activists like Fred Hampton, Huey Newton, Malcom X, MLK Jr.

                To be honest on the years I definitely forgot that 2005 which was the Bush Administration by the way, was 20 years ago and the Democrats were more than happy to vote time and time again to bomb the shit out by iraq and Afghanistan, oh and to celebrate all of our privacy in the Patriot Act. It actually makes it easier for me because it’s Democrat position in 2005 less radical than they’re one in the 90s. And majorly increase police budgets which disproportionately have a negative effect on minority communities.

                Now let’s look at the absolutely pathetic compromise that is the ACA. First it imposed major tax penalties on anyone who couldn’t afford Healthcare, secondly the ACA plans put them in competition with other corporate insurance plans and often cost the same, about the only materially good thing the ACA did was get rid of pre-existing denial clauses.

                Oh yes the $8,000 to simulate the Housing Industry offered first time home buyers during the Obama administration. What a wonderful temporary reform. Too bad it doesn’t help anybody today. Kind of interesting that the Democrats wouldn’t do this again during the Biden Administration when housing needed to be stimulated 🤷.

                You know what my favorite part of proposals are? How there’s no material actions that come from these and just how ineffective they are at actually changing things you know since people ignore proposals all the time.

                I’m sorry did you forget that Roe vs Wade was overturned in Bidens Administration? I wonder why the Democrats didn’t do anything about it.

                What else you got?

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                  12 hours ago

                  Not only is all of that directly incorrect, it comes from a fucking Nazi who supports Ukrainian genocide.

                  Get the fuck out of here, Nazi.