Very good article

  • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 days ago

    except in terms of speed

    Is… Is that the point, on a vacation? Id want to see stuff.

    safety

    Yeah, drivers try to kill cyclists all the time. They’re a menace.

    convenience

    On amtrak, i can go to the cafe car, get wasted, eat salty snacks, drop some acid, stare out the window for a couple hours, then nap. All without stopping.

    The internet doesnt break. The bathrooms always work. The seats are comfier. What the fuck am i missing?

    comfort

    Citation. Fucking. Needed.

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      You will see stuff in a car, especially out west. Seeing things doesn’t really have relevance unless we are talking hundreds of miles per hour. A bike is slower than a car.

      As convenience goes, we are talking about using a bike, not going on a train.

      As far as comfort goes, a car is more comfortable than a bike. If you disagree, you only know economy cars.

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        I have driven a lot in the west, and what you see is just automobile infrastructure, which is pretty much the same everywhere and incredibly ugly.

        The interesting sites require you to hike away from the roads.

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        see things

        Yeah. The road and cars around you, if you dont have ‘a driver’.

        bikes not convenient

        Because you need to move to move? Yeah. Also, you can take it much farther on most trails than a car.

        bike less comfy than car

        Uh, okay. So walk? Stay on the train?

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      To add to this

      safety

      A broader definition of safety includes health risks from a sedentary lifestyle, which would include a large proportion of people. Cycling reduces these risks, while driving makes them worse. Cycling still increases your life expectancy, so safety shouldn’t be a reason not to cycle.

      Of course, perceived safety is important too as this is preventing people from taking up cycling. But that’s a different conversation.

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        A conversation best resolved with a global ad campaign of totally random totally apolitical car bombs. To advertise the dangers cars pose to us and our environment.

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      You’re genuinely brain-damaged if you think bikes are more comfortable than cars. No citation needed—it’s called having an ass. Like bikers literally get injuries for sitting on those microscopic seats for too long.

      And we were talking about bikes, and you started talking about how amtrak is more convenient. Fucking huh??? Again, brain damaged.

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        take bike on train

        You… You get off the bike to get onto the train. You know that, right?

        injuries: bike butt!

        I guess I’ve always felt more uncomfortable in and around cars. For some reason. I have dead nerves all over my fucking grizzled-ass fucking body thanks to cars. Places i just don’t feel anymore.

        If i have problems with bike butt, i can sorta stand for a few minutes; it’s fine.