• kvasir476@lemmy.world
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    When democrats are interested in a “united front” against fascism I will gladly vote for them. Unfortunately allowing and funding a genocide and, running on having “the most lethal military in the world” don’t really strike me as antifascist.

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      Cool, thanks for voting for “MORE funding for genocide”, the genocide of American marginalized groups, and the genocide of Ukrainians.

      You’re the kind of ghoul who would’ve refused to vote in 1860 because Lincoln and the Republican Party weren’t advocating an immediate end to slavery. After all, you couldn’t possibly sully your hands with voting for imperfect candidates.

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        I explicitly voted for a candidate who clearly communicated that they were firmly against all three of those things.

        IMO your time would be more productively spent pursuing why your candidate was not against some of them and how to remedy that in the future.

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          Did you know we could tell you that was going to work out incredibly poorly? Or were you actually surprised?

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          I explicitly voted for a candidate who clearly communicated that they were firmly against all three of those things.

          Cool, I could’ve voted for myself and achieved the same fucking effect that you did - ie nothing.

          IMO your time would be more productively spent pursuing why your candidate was not against some of them and how to remedy that in the future.

          Because the state of political education in this country is terrifyingly low?

          Because the majority of the population adheres to ghoulish positions or doesn’t care?

          Because when we had the opportunity to put in a genuine (if extremely mild) socialist candidate into the nomination seat, we couldn’t get enough people to show up to the primaries, twice, despite said socialist candidate being immensely charismatic, well-informed on the issues, and morally goddamn spotless by politician standards?

          The way to remedy that is to educate the population, raise awareness of the deeper causes of popular issues (both domestic and foreign), increase political involvement in the citizenry, and discourage political apathy. This should be combined with either a coordinated effort to take over the Dem party or form a third party when there’s more than ten metaphorical goddamn seconds before the next election.

          But on election day, if your thought was “I will cast a protest vote while the fascist is quite apparently within striking distance of victory”, you’re not really doing anything more than the third of America that sat at home with their thumbs up their goddamn asses as fascism was elected into all levers of power in this fucking country.

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            The way to remedy that is to educate the population, raise awareness of the deeper causes of popular issues (both domestic and foreign), increase political involvement in the citizenry, and discourage political apathy.

            Did your candidate and their party do this to a level that is acceptable to you?

            Does “vote blue no matter who” aid in accomplishing this?

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              Did your candidate and their party do this to a level that is acceptable to you?

              Fuck no. Which is why sitting on our asses isn’t acceptable.

              Does “vote blue no matter who” aid in accomplishing this?

              YES, UNAMBIGIOUSLY, unless you have some sort of brainrotted notion that fascism is a good thing. Fuck’s sake.