• tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 day ago

    I am seriously tired of hearing this shit, what point does that matter now? Are you going to change the election? Move forward, we can’t do anything about how people voted now and it’s just alienating and irritating people.

    • ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      23 hours ago

      People needed to vote for the not fascist candidate in a choice between a not fascist candidate and a fascist candidate.

      It’s not hard. Learn the lesson or die to fascists. People will be too dead to be alienated.

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        21 hours ago

        Okay. Got anything other than time travel as a solution? If not, I need you to get the fuck off the internet, go talk to some neighbors, and do a moral-action to save some neighbors lives.

        Is that moral action a crime? Depends on who you ask, which state you’re in, and how you choose to do it.

        I recommend dragging a full-sized cross in front of an immigrant’s door as ICE tries to raid. On camera. In Los Angeles. With bible verses burned into the wood about “love your neighbor” from KJV. Even if you have to make the cross yourself.

        Maybe you’ll get a good photo op for the movement, maybe you’ll psychologically break a gestapo or four.

        I’m sure you have other ideas.

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          21 hours ago

          If we have another election vote in it. Vote for the Democrat candidates. Fill out the ballot with a pen. No larping fan fiction necessary.

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            no larping fanfiction necessary

            https://www.aclu.org/news/immigrants-rights/speed-over-fairness-deportation-under-obama

            I’d rather larp on the internet than enable fash to larp at court until they can drop the facade.

            This blood is on Democrats’ hands too, and I’m tired of your Team Sports mentality pretending otherwise.

            if we have another election

            And if we don’t? Or if its such a farce that its Russian-style ballot-stuffing?

            Tell me the plan. Lemme guess… Brunch?

            https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/48128843

            And when these are the people your party will FIGHT to put on the ballot? I’m sorry, even when I do vote, I vote alone. I dont get to bring a group of almost non-voters into the line with me.

            Or your party could try to… Vote Blue No Matter Who in NYC. Back the party candidate. Offer support. Embrace a platform that starts to work.

            No? No real Democratic presidential primary since 2008, and we’re supposed to trust that name? Thanks Kim Jong Un.

            Then again, we wouldn’t be in this mess if Trump’s 6th Amendment Right to a swift trial were respected, so his name could have been taken off the ballots in time for a real election. Thanks Obama appointed judges!

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              2 hours ago

              What does any of this have to do with the Democrats being the correct choice in 2024 and being the correct choice in the next two elections if we have them?

              There are still people advocating for not voting after it is now clear that was the wrong choice.

              (Voted for her too, btw, I’m mad her rhetoric didn’t let me bring friends)

              If that’s not you then you shouldn’t have a problem with this.

              And if we don’t?

              Then voting wont be an option.

              We’ve had real primaries since 2008.

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      1 day ago

      To remind people that their actions have consequences and that they need to take an active role in the democratic process if they want to preserve it.

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          13 hours ago

          The “both sides” argument is one of the fascists’ favorite ways to inspire voter apathy, maybe take a second to think about harm reduction instead of focusing only on your own moral superiority.

          Also, I’m not American, I have never voted in a US election.

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        Yup, and the whole “she wasn’t a squeaky clean and perfect candidate for me so I couldn’t vote for her in good conscience” sounds like such a fucking dumb argument in the face of what we’ve seen the other guy has done/will do.

        And to the user you replied to: yes, it doesn’t do anything to change reality, but points like this should be noted so hopefully people learn. You vote so a piece of shit like Mango Mussolini doesn’t get to power and dismantle the U.S. government.

        P.S. I proudly voted for Kamala Harris

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      You’re fight, people don’t like hearing about the consequences of their own actions. They like sitting comfortably, pretending they did what they could to stop it

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      “Look, I know that these people voted for you and yours to suffer, but you just need to get over that so that we can come together and be a happy family again. You not getting over that one little tiny bump in our past just alienates everyone that wanted to see your life destroyed. It was a tiny blip from our past. Just get over it already.” ~You…for the most part.