= ( Everytime I see a fuck cars or pro bicycle post I get sad, sitting in my U.S. urban city. I want to ride a bike to work, I want to use public transport but 70 minutes one way by bike is a bit too long and its still half as long as taking the bus woukd take. and no I will never shut up my gripping that a 14 mile drive should not take 2.5 hours by bus. (For context my commute is 20-30 minutes by car)
Yeah US cities wont easily be able to convert to biking. The biggest issue isnt even the transport infrastructure, its the land use. He talks about that in this video as well. If the US allowed building more compact, multi story housing mixed together with businesses, then you wouldnt be forced to travel so far to your work destination. The US needs to go from separating housing and business into zones that are 10 miles apart back to mixing them together into a beautiful heterogeneous mess where you can get to work by cycling 10-15 minutes. There needs to be sooo much mental restructuring to turn more people into YIMBY’s for that to become a reality tho.
yeah, he outlines the problems really clearly and how it can be solved. I was just talking about it with some people yesterday, with the current Californa contentions about removing minimum parking requirements for affordable housing.
Alot of people are protesting turning ugly lots into affordable housing…ugh. Literally the reasons we can’t have nice things. “Parking in multistory garages instead of a giant 500 car lot so there affordable housing is unacceptable, its inconvenient and it will bring in undesirable” - basically Menlo
Friend of mine lives outside LA, they used a motel 6 into temporary housing for unhoused, no problem. They went to make it housing units for said homeless, locals got pissed, fought toooth and nail, said itd bring in undeasaribles, increase crime etc etc.
Officials were confused bcs the people they where complaining about had been living there for 3 years already jus they where converting it from “motel 6” to basically an apartment building. smh.
Mixed use buildings and affordable housing without needing cars is such a dream 15-20 minutes cycle would be nice, shame its so uncommon and so disliked by some people no one gets it. To my closest store its a 10 minute drive / ~hour walk (before they canceled the bus route it was also a bit over an hour but 2 hours back) city has a quarter mile / 0.4km of bike lane and alot of streets dont have sidewalks
40k people, smh (ofc its partly because of the extensive blatant corruption here but ah)
In the Netherlands there is a special class of ebikes we call “Speed pedelec”. They are made to go 45kph, but you still pedal. Might be very nice for your commute?
Most important thing though is to try to unite with neighbours and ask for local politics for save infrastructure. In the Netherlands we have the concept of “polderen” for this: you don’t make it an all-or-nothing thing, just try to make it good enough for both worlds. If people want to drive, we give them good roads to drive on, which might be a little bit less wide and straight than you’re used to, but we also have great cycling infrastructure for the people that don’t. Having options is real, actual freedom. Everybody needs to give a little to gain a lot though. That’s polderen. Every person using a bike is another one not driving a car, so more space on the road for people that do want to drive.
“poldren” thats nice, yeah. People around here seem to be just done, rampant corruption, almost all the city money goes into the pcoket of the councilmembers or thier business partners. New mayor at least has got some infrastructure projects done, even if it seems half the money was embezzlemed. Compromise is good but also hard…sheriffs have been trying to crack down on atvs because quite alot of people here go around in atvs harassing pedestrians and homeless in the area. And no one feels safe being outside, some shootings every week or so
I’ll look it those speed pedelec, maybe something like that in the states. Need to also really organize some group thats not just trying to lobby for more weed gardens, maybe get some change.
A class 1 ebike should help you cover that nicely I think. Your commute might be a little longer, maybe about 40ish minutes if you’re going at 32kmph top speed that most of them are limited to, but still!
a 14 mile drive should not take 2.5 hours by bus.
That really does sound like something to be raised with the city government. That’s terrible, I can cover that in under an hour on my bike at normal commuting speed
as for the busses theyve have been in a downward spiral the last 20 years. Shitty routes mean less riders, less riders mean less busses which means longer routes which means less riders.
Regularly most of these big 40 something passenger busses they run have 1 passengers. Only people that take them are old, disabled, people that have no other choice.
For shits and gigles after they changed the route I used to take (was 40 min for that 14 miles 2 busses) I took the bus from where id need to commute. 3 busses, 14 miles. It took over 3 hours and the most egregious part was the longest leg which was the 3.5 miles on the local bus that went from my local grocery to my hosue that took a mind numbing 87 minutes. It makes me laugh how SLOW that bus ride was, now they canceled that one so you have to walk the 3~ miles but really you actually save time.
I totally understand. Maybe an electric bike could get that 14 miles done in 55 minutes? 50? Still not a small bike commute, but that maybe JUST ticks it over too ‘possible’ ? I had a bike commute that took me 90 minutes, electric bike brought that all the way down to 60, driving 25km/h very consistently did the trick. Again, no judgement, 70 minutes biking is no joke.
Hmm, I haven’t fully looked into e-bikes. Maybe 60 minutes isn’t unachavaible. another problem is alot of the route doesn’t have sidewalks, let alone bike lanes…at least its paved.
= ( Everytime I see a fuck cars or pro bicycle post I get sad, sitting in my U.S. urban city. I want to ride a bike to work, I want to use public transport but 70 minutes one way by bike is a bit too long and its still half as long as taking the bus woukd take. and no I will never shut up my gripping that a 14 mile drive should not take 2.5 hours by bus. (For context my commute is 20-30 minutes by car)
Yeah US cities wont easily be able to convert to biking. The biggest issue isnt even the transport infrastructure, its the land use. He talks about that in this video as well. If the US allowed building more compact, multi story housing mixed together with businesses, then you wouldnt be forced to travel so far to your work destination. The US needs to go from separating housing and business into zones that are 10 miles apart back to mixing them together into a beautiful heterogeneous mess where you can get to work by cycling 10-15 minutes. There needs to be sooo much mental restructuring to turn more people into YIMBY’s for that to become a reality tho.
yeah, he outlines the problems really clearly and how it can be solved. I was just talking about it with some people yesterday, with the current Californa contentions about removing minimum parking requirements for affordable housing.
Alot of people are protesting turning ugly lots into affordable housing…ugh. Literally the reasons we can’t have nice things. “Parking in multistory garages instead of a giant 500 car lot so there affordable housing is unacceptable, its inconvenient and it will bring in undesirable” - basically Menlo
Friend of mine lives outside LA, they used a motel 6 into temporary housing for unhoused, no problem. They went to make it housing units for said homeless, locals got pissed, fought toooth and nail, said itd bring in undeasaribles, increase crime etc etc.
Officials were confused bcs the people they where complaining about had been living there for 3 years already jus they where converting it from “motel 6” to basically an apartment building. smh.
Mixed use buildings and affordable housing without needing cars is such a dream 15-20 minutes cycle would be nice, shame its so uncommon and so disliked by some people no one gets it. To my closest store its a 10 minute drive / ~hour walk (before they canceled the bus route it was also a bit over an hour but 2 hours back) city has a quarter mile / 0.4km of bike lane and alot of streets dont have sidewalks
40k people, smh (ofc its partly because of the extensive blatant corruption here but ah)
In the Netherlands there is a special class of ebikes we call “Speed pedelec”. They are made to go 45kph, but you still pedal. Might be very nice for your commute?
Most important thing though is to try to unite with neighbours and ask for local politics for save infrastructure. In the Netherlands we have the concept of “polderen” for this: you don’t make it an all-or-nothing thing, just try to make it good enough for both worlds. If people want to drive, we give them good roads to drive on, which might be a little bit less wide and straight than you’re used to, but we also have great cycling infrastructure for the people that don’t. Having options is real, actual freedom. Everybody needs to give a little to gain a lot though. That’s polderen. Every person using a bike is another one not driving a car, so more space on the road for people that do want to drive.
“poldren” thats nice, yeah. People around here seem to be just done, rampant corruption, almost all the city money goes into the pcoket of the councilmembers or thier business partners. New mayor at least has got some infrastructure projects done, even if it seems half the money was embezzlemed. Compromise is good but also hard…sheriffs have been trying to crack down on atvs because quite alot of people here go around in atvs harassing pedestrians and homeless in the area. And no one feels safe being outside, some shootings every week or so
I’ll look it those speed pedelec, maybe something like that in the states. Need to also really organize some group thats not just trying to lobby for more weed gardens, maybe get some change.
A class 1 ebike should help you cover that nicely I think. Your commute might be a little longer, maybe about 40ish minutes if you’re going at 32kmph top speed that most of them are limited to, but still!
That really does sound like something to be raised with the city government. That’s terrible, I can cover that in under an hour on my bike at normal commuting speed
I think I have to seriously consider an ebike.
as for the busses theyve have been in a downward spiral the last 20 years. Shitty routes mean less riders, less riders mean less busses which means longer routes which means less riders. Regularly most of these big 40 something passenger busses they run have 1 passengers. Only people that take them are old, disabled, people that have no other choice.
For shits and gigles after they changed the route I used to take (was 40 min for that 14 miles 2 busses) I took the bus from where id need to commute. 3 busses, 14 miles. It took over 3 hours and the most egregious part was the longest leg which was the 3.5 miles on the local bus that went from my local grocery to my hosue that took a mind numbing 87 minutes. It makes me laugh how SLOW that bus ride was, now they canceled that one so you have to walk the 3~ miles but really you actually save time.
I totally understand. Maybe an electric bike could get that 14 miles done in 55 minutes? 50? Still not a small bike commute, but that maybe JUST ticks it over too ‘possible’ ? I had a bike commute that took me 90 minutes, electric bike brought that all the way down to 60, driving 25km/h very consistently did the trick. Again, no judgement, 70 minutes biking is no joke.
Hmm, I haven’t fully looked into e-bikes. Maybe 60 minutes isn’t unachavaible. another problem is alot of the route doesn’t have sidewalks, let alone bike lanes…at least its paved.