• Cyrus Draegur@lemmy.zip
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    3 months ago

    If they’re not with Zohran, they’re against Democracy.

    I mean this is kind of obvious at this point that the democrats and the republicans are both anti-democracy, just one covertly and the other overtly. But still. I want more people getting loud and angry at anti-democracy democrats.

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      I mean at this rate with about %70 of democrats saying no to Bernie’s stop arm sales motions, we can already safely assume yes they are. They have only been caring about their seats for quite a while and the deals they have made to stay on those seats do not align with the aims and interests of people like Bernie and Zohran. That is why they try to stop such candidates as ferociously as Republicans.

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        Spoken like a true chauvinist. The UK murdered tens of millions more in India alone under the guise of the values of enlightenment than Islam has in the past century and a half.

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          Islam makes women 2nd class citizens it’s a guise for enslaving a whole gender. Fuck Islam. Defending it means you don’t value 50% of humans.

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            Yeah you’re right, unlike evangelical Christianity, which treats women as valuable and treasured members of society… Nah just kidding they are just ambulatory wombs that occasionally make noises as far as the evangelicals are concerned.

            I am disgusted by religion, all religions, but let’s not blind ourselves to the reality that when religion is an excuse for shitty behaviour it’s not restricted to a single religion, and its not like getting rid of the religion would remove the shitty behaviour it would just mean coming up with a new justification.

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                    I believe that you must judge religion for it’s content and after that its possible use. Otherwise, you will simply delve into unfair discrimination distinction. As someone who “doesn’t adhere to the bible but still identifies as a Christian”, arguably is not a Christian.

                    The Quran is very vocal about the fact that women are most valued for her body, while the bible doesn’t really value women even for their body. The Quran says that women are almost equal to men, but that men are a degree above them. Which is way, way, way more generous than what the bible gives them. The bible says that women must treat men like gods, and that they basically have no rights at all. Women may not teach at all, and have no authority over men.

                    Both treat menstruation like a disease and are really vile against it. The bible even describes how gods favorite insult is menstruous woman… “You must stay away from women who menstruate”, is something both the Quran and Bible say. The Quran also says women are some reward, which is truly disgusting. Both the Bible and Quran are pretty lenient in women in slavery, although these things get pretty complicated for me personally. On the topic of men owning women, both the Bible and the Quran say pretty much the same. Although in Christianity, the original belief was to just avoid women and sex, since there wasn’t enough time. Jesus was coming so soon that the people living then didn’t have enough time to even have sex… it’s insane that people even can be Christians, because the religion very openly prophesized the end to be before 200 AC, it should’ve been in a lifetime. But alas, I guess no Christian has actually read the whole bible. Matthew 23:36 is one of the many instances where the bible said that the generation that was around for the bible would see the events of the end of the world… Sorry for going off-topic. I have an interest in religion.

                    The short version of my whole lineup, if you stop comparing religions, then they all are guilty of misogyny and discrimination against women. Quran and the Bible both contain a good amount of misogyny. From my point of view, the bible condones the murder of women more, while the Quran seems to condone rape more (they both condone these to a degree). If you went into studies of actual behavior partaken in by people who identify as either Muslim or Christian, this would be more complex.

                    I just dislike giving Christianity a pass as if it is anywhere close to being better. I am not going to argue towards making Christianity seem worse, which someone could easily do in a lot of ways. My intention is just to say that both religions do hold these views in their fundaments. Aside from this all, I would say that judging either Muslims or Christians by them being so is wrong. This also goes for many other religions too, of course, I am just trying to make it easier to talk about this as some religions are fundamentally bad to be a part of. Many Christians can be good and bad people, many Muslims can be good and bad people.

                    I hope that this response has fallen well, and it has helped to inform. There is not one that can be credited to be as bad as it gets, as it is really hard to accurately make an estimate of which is the actual worse one. It just creates a distinction which can be used to harm a demographic, sometimes even a bigger one than the original intention (if you dislike Muslims, then this might extend to anyone that appears Arabic to you).

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            Western chauvinism makes non-whites 2nd class citizens. It’s a guise for enslaving the whole global south. Fuck western chauvinism. Defending it means you don’t value 80% of humans.

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        Yeah, you’re just an Islamaphobe. I know this because you’re specifically focusing on Islam, rather than every other major religion.

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          Nah I hate all religions, Islam is just as bad as it gets when checking to see if women have any semblance of respect

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        Yes, of course. That must be why they tried ferociously to stop him from winning the primary with Islamophobic smears and are now freaking out that they failed, and why the corporate media (yes, even the “liberal” media) are all crashing out.

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          Ah yes, the great DNC freakout of 2025. It was legendary. Why even Bill Clinton made such vile remarks as

          Congratulations @ZohranKMamdani on your victory in yesterday’s primary election and a well-run campaign. I’m wishing you much success in November and beyond as you work to bring New Yorkers together to tackle the city’s challenges and shape a stronger, fairer future,

          These horrible disgusting people would stop at nothing to keep them off their ticket. Except, of course, not inviting him to run on their ticket, for some reason.

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            They’re all maintaining decorum (something they would die before dropping) by congratulating him on his win while denouncing his policies and stopping short of endorsing him. Ever since his victory all the “liberal” corporate media has been praising the “energy” of his campaign while criticizing his policies as dangerous and painting his pro-palestinian views as anti-semitic. Don’t even try to pretend the way the DNC has been responding to this is normal. In nearly every other democratic primary the DNC have been quick to line up behind the victor.

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            Here’s an article from the corporate media about the DNC’s response to Mamdani’s victory, and Here’s an article from independent leftist media about the Islamophobic attacks against him.

            I won’t include an article from right-wing media, but I’m sure you can guess how they’re coping with the electoral victory of a Muslim socialist immigrant born in Uganda to Indian parents (not well).

            The post we’re commenting under has also included some articles.