“Leftists” being put over an image of the FUCKING POLICE
Is always funny.
OP has brain worms and is a lib
All cops are bolsheviks, didn’t you hear ;)
OP, you are either very uninformed, or a troll.
This is giving me huge, “shit libs say” vibes.
OP do you legitimately think the people fucking shit up right now are on the left?
Like, it’s very vague, but I’m struggling to interpret this in any logical way, it just doesn’t make any sense.
Let’s be fair some of us are far more concerned with virtue signaling than actually making things better. Not all of us. I certainly wouldn’t lump all the left in on that. But there is a very vocal minority I would.
I’m nowhere near LA but at least on BlueSky there’s been a lot of snide “oh, now they’re telling us to fight fascism by being nice!” Under any comment or post about not getting violent and not burning shit. I’m sure there’s some right wing provocatuers but I imagine there are also a bunch of kids who think lighting cars on fire is in fact fighting fascism etc.
I mean…
How’d not burning cars work out when Biden was prez?
Martin wouldn’t have won without Malcolm. Peaceful protests only work when there’s a third option besides listening to them or stays quo.
Some people need the risk of losing more before they’ll agree to equality.
That’s just human behavior
How’d not burning cars work out when Biden was prez?
??? Pretty okay? We got some significant climate change legislation etc… If you’re saying we should have been rioting against the Biden presidency, I don’t think you’re particularly helpful for our current crisis.
Martin wouldn’t have won without Malcolm. Peaceful protests only work when there’s a third option besides listening to them or stays quo.
Strongly disagree, look at Gandhi.
I think there’s a dangerous tend for kids in the West to romanticize political violence after having grown up in privilege and safety that would be unimaginable to much of humanity even nowadays, let alone across history. And more dangerously, to only look at narrow slices of history they like rather than the full sweep.
That’s not to say seriously violent riots and protests can’t work, it’s just that they cost a huge amount of innocent blood and lives, and of course more often than not, they don’t work. (But those same spoiled kids don’t like reading about those parts of history/current events.)
That being said, I’m not sure we’re strong enough to actually do a peaceful protest properly. The power of MLK wasn’t the willingness to protest, it was the willingness or even eagerness for supporters to be beaten black and blue over and over and over again in a desperate and eventually successful attempt to shock the conscience of a nation. I’ve seen nothing that indicates we’d have the resolve for that.
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Probably couldn’t be further from the truth on this one. Even her own station refused to blame the cops (“leftists” in this analogy). When have Democrats ever defended the left? Let alone when they’re harming their own personal chances. See: David Hogg trying to purge ineffective old guard and being crucified for it.
Even her own station refused to blame the cops
What? What does that have to do with it?
When have Democrats ever defended the left?
Okay see this here? This comment is a “rubber bullet” unless you want to give it context. Define “the left”, define “defended”, and we’ll take “the Democrats” to mean the Democratic Party, meaning elected Democratic officials and party employees of the DNC (unless you want to use a different definition).
I can think of a lot of instances of the Democrats defending the left. But maybe we’re not defining those the same way.
What does blame have to do with it? Everything. That is the entire problem with cops, they get away with literally everything, including shooting her and making her basically apologize to them for the story now being about her… Maybe your meme format should include one without an actual backstory if you want to invent your own.
The left being progressives – democratic socialists and socialists, the Democrats as in neoliberal leadership such as Schumer, Jeffries, Durbin, Biden, Obama… etc. Defended as in standing behind them when they’re blamed for nonsense or scapegoated as anti-American. Ilhan Omar comes to mind. Did any Democrat defend her when she was being called a terrorist because she’s a first-generation Muslim refugee with criticism of American capitalism?
Perhaps while we’re explaining obvious meanings, you can explain why the cops, who were not blamed for shooting a reporter live on camera because the cops have too much power over media for them to criticize, are equivalent to leftists, who are blamed for everything? Memes which are reaches to this extent seem desperate. I wouldn’t want to be in a mind so riddled with logical holes.
What does blame have to do with it? Everything. That is the entire problem with cops, they get away with literally everything
Well . . . I don’t disagree, but I still don’t know what cops have to do with the metaphor. There’s no cops in the metaphor.
The left being progressives – democratic socialists and socialists
Okay, so no anarchists, communists, or - other - just the Democratic socialists and socialists. I’m assuming you mean voters, non-office-holders and not national party leaders specifically?
Democrats as in neoliberal leadership such as Schumer, Jeffries, Durbin, Biden, Obama… etc.
Well, okay ‘leadership’ is good there, but the etc. kinda defeats the purpose of defining that, so - all ‘neoliberal leadership’ ever, say?
Also can you define neoliberal leadership? Like neoliberal for one, but for two is that officeholding leadership at all levels; federal, state, local, or just federal?
Defended as in standing behind them when they’re blamed for nonsense or scapegoated as anti-American.
“Standing behind them” as in literally like in a press conference, or do prior established positions count as “standing behind them”? Are you saying there should be a public statement like a press release or do you mean some equivalent amount of press coverage?
“blamed for nonsense”, I think you know I need that specified because - it’s very broad. “Scapegoated” is even trickier because are you talking about Fox News reporting or something more all-outlets-reporting? “Anti-American”, as well - you mean literally the phrase “anti-American”? Or something else?
Ilhan Omar comes to mind. Did any Democrat defend her when she was being called a terrorist because she’s a first-generation Muslim refugee with criticism of American capitalism?
Okay, good that’s a better example. Except Ilhan Omar is a Democratic leader, which doesn’t match the “left being Democratic socialists and socialists”. Unless Democratic party leaders can be “Democratic socialists and socialists.” I mean, if they can, then it’s a whole other question isn’t it. It’d be more like ‘Why don’t Democrats support Democrats’, right?
Perhaps while we’re explaining obvious meanings
“Obvious meanings” don’t scale well enough. That’s why science spends so much time defining things. Political science, in this case.
. . . you can explain why the cops, who were not blamed for shooting a reporter live on camera because the cops have too much power over media
Okay, again, cops have nothing to do with this discussion. Just - forget the cops for a second. In the picture, the figure marked “Leftists” is shooting the figure marked “Democrats”. Shooting with a non-lethal round. Something deliberate. Something stupid. And something which is designed to hurt the “Democrats” but won’t kill them.
Something like refusing to support them when they’re the only option against chaos and cruelty. Which was last November. That’s the metaphor. And here come the Midterms.
Ngl, this reads like an AI with the prompt, “Be as obtuse as possible.”
The metaphor fails because the story of the photo is already there. Posting a short story to get to the bottom of what you’re trying to say with it seems like it doesn’t serve the purpose…
Actually, after checking your account, I’m going to conclude that maybe someone with a year activity shouldn’t have 20x + more comments than someone who is already on Lemmy too much… Seems like the game is to waste maximal time or generate the most engagement with responses that are generated, in my opinion… Comments themselves seem low effort until this very specific topic. Idk, I stopped caring while typing this.
Idk, I stopped caring while typing this.
And there it is. The so-called-left’s commitment to a national political presence, the barest minimum required for federal governance. Hate the Dems, do sweet fuckall the rest of the time.
Lol
I don’t understand the meme but it seems to be making the tankies mad so I give it an updoot.
Your brain on liberalism, folks, I give you exhibit A:
