Under your rules we can morally eat people in comas.
Ah, I agree! If fruits and vegetables deserve moral consideration because they “want to live,” then coma patients, clearly not demonstrating any ambition, are demonstrably and ethically fair game. I mean, they’re just lying there, right? No subjective experiences, taking up valuable hospital space and depleting emotional energy while not contributing anything… a head of cabbage with a Medicare plan.
I will not debate plant sentience. If you erroneously believe in and care about plant sentience, you should go vegan, by eating them directly far fewer plants are murdered.
Ok. So anything that doesn’t have a subjective experience of existence is morally fine to eat.
Nope. Didn’t say that either. You were the one hallucinating a carrots will.
Yes, but the point about minimizing plant deaths by eating plants instead of feeding more plants to animals and then eating the animals is a valid one…
Says you. They certainly have a will to reproduce, get sunlight, get water.
Ok. So anything that doesn’t have a subjective experience of existence is morally fine to eat.
Under your rules we can morally eat people in comas.
Ah, I agree! If fruits and vegetables deserve moral consideration because they “want to live,” then coma patients, clearly not demonstrating any ambition, are demonstrably and ethically fair game. I mean, they’re just lying there, right? No subjective experiences, taking up valuable hospital space and depleting emotional energy while not contributing anything… a head of cabbage with a Medicare plan.
Waste not, want not.
I will not debate plant sentience. If you erroneously believe in and care about plant sentience, you should go vegan, by eating them directly far fewer plants are murdered.
Nope. Didn’t say that either. You were the one hallucinating a carrots will.
If people bring up vegetarianism in an empathy debate then no-one can stop me empathising with the carrot.
Yes, but the point about minimizing plant deaths by eating plants instead of feeding more plants to animals and then eating the animals is a valid one…
Yes. Gping further. If you really want to minimise plant deaths then you remove all animals (including humans).
My main point is that empathy and it’s focus depends very much on the individual. Empathy is a strong emotional argument but a weak logical one.