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spujb@lemmy.cafe to Political Memes@lemmy.worldEnglish · 5 days ago

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    No this one is?

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      So. When is enough dead children enough for you? Will you stop when they’re all dead? Or will you just move onto another country?

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        You know, hamas murder people for being gay right? How many dead gay people is enough for you?

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          I have yet to see any proof for this claim. As far as I know, Hamas doesn’t kill queer people, at least not systematically. They face violence, no doubt about that and that’s already bad enough, but stick to the facts here instead of making shit up.

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            • https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/middle-east/hamas-commander-accused-of-gay-sex-is-killed-by-his-own-1.2555822
            • https://www.firstpost.com/world/hamas-prosecutes-gay-recruits-for-violating-morality-code-report-cites-secret-docs-13860349.html

            Israel is no better, but you said it wasn’t true, so I decided to correct you.

            Just for clarification: I’m against what Israel is doing.

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              I didn’t and won’t argue against your second source. I know Hamas uses violence, sometimes even torture, against queer Palestinians, I’m not denying that. And the first source is just one of maybe a few instances, which is why I added “at least not systematically”. The original comment just made it sound like Hamas systematically kills a lot of queer Palestinians or even to a similar extent as Israel killing Palestinians / Palestinian children, which just isn’t the case.

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                The difference is Hamas would be doing this in peace times or in a world with no Israel. They are shit. Israel’s government are shit. Just weird defending such shitty people

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                  Maybe, maybe not. I don’t really like to judge people based on hypothetical assumptions. They are shit for various reasons, no doubt about that and I don’t defend proven shitty actions by them, let alone the organization as a whole, I just think we should keep discourse factual, even if it’s about groups we understandably don’t like.

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