Every time Windows updates itself, my Linux disappears. Actually, it’s just hidden, only the boot menu was overwritten. You need a computer maintenance technician to make a new boot menu. I use a USB stick with a live Linux with automatic boot repair tools.

Recently, Windows has become resistant to Boot Repair Disk. Now I have to open computer firmware by tapping “Esc” right after power-up, then select “Boot options”, then “Linux”.


EU must ban all US-made smart products for its own safety. All closed-source software and electronics that can be used for strategic manipulation and sabotage – Google, Apple, Amazon, all of it.

We have functional, clunky open-source software that could easily be fitted for any purpose with the money we waste propping up foreign monopolies sabotaging us. Europe has taken a huge risk. I suspect bribery.

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    efibootmgr is your friend. Boot into linux and use it to set the boot records as you want, in the order that you want them.

    Also, I have heard from a bunch of people, that this can be mitigated by having separate EFI partitions for Linux and Windows. That means one EFI partition per physical drive. You can go as far as having the EFI partition on different media than the Linux install.

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    I haven’t been using Linux that long, but it hasn’t happened to me in the six months I’ve been dual booting 🤔

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    I mean Microsofts programming is also just shit. I remember installing Windows 7 back then. The computer had an SSD and a HDD in it with old files. I later removed the HDD and it wouldn’t boot. Because even though I installed Windows on the SSD, it put the bootloader onto the HDD.

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      Windows still does that to this day. For some random reason, it will often create the EFI boot partition in a different drive than the one you’re installing Windows to.

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    Win11 bricked my linux install usb. Microsoft also colluded with intel to make intel cpus appear to perform better by sandbagging AMD cpus.

    Bill Gates may be a nice guy but his company has become trash.

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      has become trash

      It was always trash and always fucked with Linux and other OS. The only solution is no Windows.

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        Sad thing is, the NT kernel itself is POSIX and compatible and all. But the UI on top doesn’t support half of it.

        Edit: it was POSIX and OS/2 compatibel, then they removed it.

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          The funny thing is, as far as I can tell, the only reason why NT has a posix subsystem is to comply with some weird government regulation.

          From Wikipedia:

          The NT POSIX subsystem was included with the first versions of Windows NT because of 1980s US federal government requirements listed in Federal Information Processing Standard (FIPS) 151-2. Briefly, these documents required that certain types of government purchases be POSIX-compliant, so that if Windows NT had not included this subsystem, computing systems based on it would not have been eligible for some government contracts.

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    I use a Dualboot with Windows 10 (there are unfortunately some very few games I couldn’t get to run with Linux, otherwise I had removed Windows a long time ago) but I never ran into this problem. Someone here wrote about efimgr, could be that I installed that by accident and this helps. I just followed some random tutorial back then.

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      Did you try the tinkering recommendations on protonDB? They’re great. Might be able to help you if you hadn’t tried them.

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        Yes, I did. Most of the time that works, but there is one game which I absolutely love, Space Engineers, and I could not get that to work with any amount of tinkering.

        Edit: I just tried it again. Installation of Proton GE was necessary and had some hiccups. Used command line values from ProtonDB. Space Engineers kind of works now. Performance isn’t great though, some sudden FPS drops.

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        Hey, drag. I can tell you that most people trying to switch from Windows to Linux do not want to sit there after a long day at work and tinker with stuff to just get a game running.

        Yesterday, after a 10 hour shift, I got home and tried to get WeMod working on my openSUSE Tumbleweed. I got home at 6 in the afternoon, and had been up since 6 that morning. It wasn’t until 9 PM that I was finally able to get WeMod working with Mass Effect Legendary Edition, thanks to the WeMod-launcher team over on GirHub.

        That means I was only able to play for maybe an hour before bed just because I wanted something that is as simple as double clicking on Windows, and playing.

        Now, I understand I’m an edge case, because I want to use cheats on my games. That’s just the general attitude I’ve seen when trying to get people to switch over myself.

        “Why isn’t my program working?”

        “Oh, yeah. Programs for Windows don’t work as they should. You have to do x and y and then sprinkle a little bit of z in this config file over here on this other other program”

        “What the fuck? That’s stupid.”

        “No man. It’s really cool once you start to understand!”

        “Please help me get my Windows back. I don’t want to bother with this, I just want to play my game / use my program”

        Literal conversation I’ve had.

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    I agree with your post but I must ask - is that King Charles taking the wheel UEFI Boot partition?

    Thanks for the confirmations. It indeed seems to be King Charles taking the UEFI Boot Partition. Microsoft Monarchy at it again taking what belongs to the people.

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        MOD: I assume this is a reference to something, but you will have to edit the reply to reflect that. It’s a huge stretch, and as written it comes of needlessly racist.

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    Safest thing to do is run windows only in a VM or container with Linux as the host OS and pass the hardware required in. Windows actually runs better this way and can’t mess with your Linux install.

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      “That’s not how anything works” meme material right here.

      How can literally anything run better on a vm compared to physical?

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        To understand why windows runs better in a vm or container, you’d have to understand how the windows kernels work… And that means understanding how all the code from every previous Windows kernel that is still in windows 11 works. Since they never did a full rewrite. For example you’d have to understand why blue screens of death happen, and how windows telemetry works, what code from windows 3.1 still exist, and what windows 11 really does when it tries to serve you ads. I’m not qualified, and as far as I can tell no one at Microsoft is either.

        I know your wrote some kind of gotcha but you really should try it and see for yourself if you actually need windows for anything. At a minimum I guarantee it’s more stable.

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      How does it run better?

      I’ve avoided it specifically for performance reasons, this is new to me, for one program that WINE doesn’t like.

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        If you aren’t gaming, you don’t care about performance past giving CPU/RAM enough resources to VM.

        If you are multiplayer gaming and unwilling to give it up or be very tech savvy, VM isn’t an option.

        Well maybe, see: https://looking-glass.io/

        If you single player game, you just need pcie passthrough to your VM.

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          Those resources are the concern. Yes, a VM works fine, but works better than native windows? That’s where my question is.

          Also, I care a lot about performance if I’m running my system on a potato.

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        Linux manages disk access way better than Windows.

        But anything that depends on CPU, memory, or IO lattency will get slower.

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        I’ve not actually benchmarked it. Although others have and I couldn’t really tell you why but windows spends a lot less time and resources trying to manage itself when it’s in a VM or container. It’s just much snapier and even when passing in a GPU to play games it preforms well.

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    EU must ban all US-made smart products for its own safety. All closed-source software and electronics that can be used for strategic manipulation and sabotage – Google, Apple, Amazon, all of it.

    Well this solves your first issue, Microsoft is US based. So just uninstall windows.

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    FWIW dual booting from the same physical drive is never a good idea in my experience. Even Linux-Linux dual booting is just asking for problems when one of them updates the grub configs and messes it up for the other.

    Save yourself some sanity and move your Windows install to a new drive.

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      One if my laptops only has 1 bay for a drive unfortunately. Currently going through the motion OP describes. Updating Windows and repairing the bootloader. It’s still MBR, not uefi, too.

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        Does it have an optical disk drive? You could replace that with an HDD caddy if you really want an extra disk

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    You’ve gotten some good suggestions but let me add another one. Run Windows as a LE (Live Environment) from a USB drive. There’s ways to do this for both Windows 10 and Windows 11, just search for “Windows Live Environment”.