For sure, that’s definitely a big American thing. The entire irony is that the term “pull yourself up by your bootstraps” was coined to say how you can’t do that, meant to describe an impossible task. Somehow conservatives took it and then made it mean the exact opposite, which is exactly on brand for them.
sure but in every comment I made it very clear what I think of those programs
See how quick you were to go to the extreme and start strawmanning everything in your previous comment though? That’s the problem.
I’m not saying the government shouldn’t help the people who need it though. Bring back FDR. I think that’s the big reason why I’m not actually conservative. The help should be there, but people should have an internal desire to rely on outside forces as little as possible. I think many already have that desire, but not enough by far.
Who said any of that? You’re making up stuff I didn’t say…
People that need help should absolutely get it in all those forms. I’m talking about like, not participating in the economy as much. Growing your own food, relying on yourself as much as possible. Like I said in other comments here, I think I’ve horseshoed around off the left and I’ve ended up in a hyper-local community driven economy mindset.
Basically what I mean is the mindset of doing everything possible in your power to be self-sufficient. I think I’ve gone so far off the left side I’ve horseshoed around. Everyone should be striving to be as self-sufficient as possible and not need to rely on external forces. I’m far from it, but I’m trying, at least given the past few years (and especially this month) I’m preparing for bad situations.
Ideally you’d have multi-party coalition districts with RCV or STV to elect them. We have a duopoly because of FPTP.
Nah, I’m not talking about the actual current Republican party nowadays. They need to die out and form a new party that’s actually conservative. It’s the most corrupt swamp straight outta Uzbekistan or Russia at this point. The things they’re doing now, no Democrats should compromise on ever.
Sure that’s fair. Whatever you want to label it, there needs to be some kind of balances against full progressivism so it doesn’t go extremely far to the left. I say this as a pretty far left progressive in most things, but have some minor conservative ideals (such as individuals wanting to support themselves without relying on outside sources). Again, I’m well aware that’s not modern Conservatism in the US these days.
Gonna get downvoted, but conservative ideals should be present to some minor extent to balance things out. I don’t mean modern conservatives or Republicans, but the concept of fiscal conservatism (e.g. preventing waste in the military). I’m not talking about the fIsCaL cOnSeRvAtIsM that current Republicans preach either, like hollowing out social programs to give tax cuts to their buddies. So yeah that’s of course not what we have now, but there should be a healthy balance for that kind of thing.
I think it’s hilarious these random basement dwelling internet people have so much confidence in something they completely have no understanding of. Thanks for the chuckle.