Its a roundabout way of writing “its really shit for this usecase and people that actively try to use it that way quickly find that out”

Yup, it’s literally a bullshit machine.

It 100% is

I normally love southern food but chicken and waffles is one that I don’t love as much. I normally just eat the chicken and then eat the waffles separately

bottled water quality is less regulated than tap water lol

I assume a paid cellular service plan for the hotspot is required for it to connect to a cell tower?

Nah you’re 100% in the wrong here, and it’s wild that you bring up respect, as if this attitude and behavior isn’t incredibly disrespectful. Calling someone is literally not disrespectful. What the fuck is wrong with people

A few, not a lot, and not on any games worth playing

It’s not. I can run the 2.51bit quant

Tell that to my home rig currently running the 671b model…

Hawley’s statement called DeepSeek “a data-harvesting, low-cost AI model that sparked international concern and sent American technology stocks plummeting.”

data-harvesting

???

It runs offline… using open-source software that provably does not collect or transmit any data…

It is low-cost and out-competes American technology, though, true

this is deepseek-v3. deepseek-r1 is the model that got all the media hype: https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1

Trump certainly sounded like he wanted it to be that way with Ivanka

https://arxiv.org/abs/2405.20304 they invented their own reinforcement learning framework called Group Relative Policy Optimization

EDIT: deepseek publicly released and published the model and methods to the global community, and there is now an open effort by researchers to reproduce them https://github.com/huggingface/open-r1 it is like the opposite of stealing

deepseek is not stolen tech, it was trained using novel innovations that western companies were not doing

there’s still a whole software-side bubble to contend with

They’re ultimately linked together in some ways (not all). OpenAI has already been losing money on every GPT subscription that they charge a premium for because they had the best product, now that premium must evaporate because there are equivalent AI products on the market that are much cheaper. This will shake things up on the software side too. They probably need more hype to stay afloat

Yes, but old and “cheap” ones that were not part of the sanctions.

China really has nothing to do with it, it could have been anyone. It’s a reaction to realizing that GPT4-equivalent AI models are dramatically cheaper to train than previously thought.

It being China is a noteable detail because it really drives the nail in the coffin for NVIDIA, since China has been fenced off from having access to NVIDIA’s most expensive AI GPUs that were thought to be required to pull this off.

It also makes the USA gov look extremely foolish to have made major foreign policy and relationship sacrifices in order to try to delay China by a few years, when it’s January and China has already caught up, those sacrifices did not pay off, in fact they backfired and have benefited China and will allow them to accelerate while hurting USA tech/AI companies

Great analogy

It literally defeats NVIDIA’s entire business model of “I shit golden eggs and I’m the only one that does and I can charge any price I want for them because you need my golden eggs”

Turns out no one actually even needs a golden egg anyway.

And… same goes for OpenAI, who were already losing money on every subscription. Now they’ve lost the ability to charge a premium for their service (anyone can train a GPT4 equivalent model cheaply, or use DeepSeek’s existing open models) and subscription prices will need to come down, so they’ll be losing money even faster