Not a parent, but here’s my perspective.

My mother always made me work for it. She had a door open policy among other things. She didn’t actually care if I was doing the things I wasn’t supposed to be doing, she just didn’t want to find out. If she found out, it meant I was being too careless/stupid. It’s actually a really good way to build up your risk evaluation skills! I did occasionally get myself in trouble (not with sex but other things), and she would help me out of the situation. Id get a lecture about what I did wrong afterwards, but honestly she was pretty good at teaching me.

I had an aggressive gambling problem as a teen. 2016 would have been my worst because I was still gambling on counter strike skin sites. I’d save up every dollar mom would give me to run to the store or whatever (I’d lie and say things were more expensive than they were), throw it onto prepaid visas and just waste it.

I can’t even begin to describe the amount that I spent.

I don’t even apologize when I am wrong, instead I just sit alone alot and think about all the friends I used to have.

:')

I can’t speak for the other games, but as a former player, FIFA did change a lot each year, usually its changes to physics, game speed, skill moves, mini games, and ofc graphics. Not $60 worth of game changes, but I’d argue it’s similar with things like call of duty. Best value was always to skip every other year.

Also gambling. Doesn’t get talked about enough but FIFA YouTubers are more or less payed by EA to shill packs and get people (usually teens) addicted to opening them. I probably bought $200 a year on packs from 2016-2020, usually money I didnt have too. Mostly why I stopped buying the games. (Stopped playing CounterStrike for the same reason)

These days, I just casually play mods of older games and get football manager every other game.

If you’re that old, you probably want to be, and that’s totally okay.

Bait used to be believable.

Im assuming the user is not a right winger, but instead a communist or anarchist.

Both hate liberals, but they are very different ideologies.

Are you suggesting that I read this work?

I have disagreements that China is currently socialist, but that is outside the scope of the original discussion.

I appreciate your correction Davel. I’ve seen some of your posts/comments in the past and they have always been informative on this topic.

I understand western notions of prisons paint ugly pictures of grey walls and metal bars so if they are given that much autonomy during the process, maybe that term was misleading and I apologize.

I do take issue with the hypothetical terrorist rebuttal though, because the same thing can be applied to the US policies. Yes, we did have terrorist attacks done against us. That doesn’t mean that every person we locked up as a terrorist was one.

You might have the trust that China is telling the truth and isn’t doing something similar, that’s a valid enough position to have. Im still not personally convinced.

Just pick one, if she doesn’t like it try the other, and if she does like it and gets proficient at it, maybe she can try the other later on. Really can’t go wrong here. I knew plenty of kids when I was in school who had done multiple combat sports and martial arts over the years.

You can become black belt in most martial arts as young as 15-16 (assuming you have the skills required). I can imagine that kinda achievement being a core childhood memory. 10 years of hardwork being rewarded!

Ah thank you for the name drop! And yeah, I hope things improve!

I agree that treatment seems a non issue, but from what I’ve seen the social stigma is incredibly significant. I forget their handle, but there was a trans man on rednote that had alot to say about the stigma in his part of china. That isn’t to say the US is any better though.

China’s claim is that anything that is being done is being done to combat islamic fundamentalist groups/extremists. This seems to be backed up by international support from Muslim countries.

Genocide claims were always unfounded. However, no matter how nice the guided tours of reeducation facilities look, they are still in effect prisons, and we of course don’t know about the things that we aren’t being shown.

If your position on the topic is anything more than “They may or may not be treated that good”, you have information that nobody else has.

At worst, I’d say it’s a neutral change. Even the scenarios you’ve outlined are better than the alternative. But the truth is, we won’t know until we know. Simple as that.

For what it’s worth, I don’t think they are a communist utopia either, and I think people get carried away hyping them up. I just don’t think arguing about it is a hill worth dying on.

You have total free will. You can choose to follow or break the laws, you can go do drugs or be a hobo somewhere if that’s the life you want to live.

Life is just your will to do something. And if you lose the freedom and will to do anything, you’re, in my mind, already dead.