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  • You seem to be media illiterate and I don’t know if I have it in me to do a whole course. But here I am typing on my phone.

    The comic is being derided because it’s showing the NYC subway as a dangerous place where fights just happen. This coincides with the common right wing belief that cities are dangerous, which has racist roots (see: white flight).

    In order for the joke to work, you need to accept that premise. Imagine if the comic was instead someone in the first frame holding a $100 ticket to a zoo, and then a $3 ticket to the subway, where the subway is full of elephants. That wouldn’t make any sense because there’s no idea that wild animals are on the train. It would simply be absurd.

    Even if the author didn’t intend to reference that fear of urban areas, it’s there. Death of the author. Authorial intent does not supersede the text. It can provide clues, but it can’t take something out.

    The joke doesn’t work without the racist context imported.

    The authors usage of woke could be any of those things, but given their comics seem to mostly be making fun of left wing positions, I don’t think it’s plausible that it’s some deep irony. It’s much more likely that they’re a simple right wing troll.

    Also like why are you going to bat so hard for this?




  • That doesn’t logically follow. No more than saying “Building more highways is bad for the environment, ergo the highway administrators benefit from having more cars on the road.” You’re looking at a problem of induced demand and concluding the problem is on the demand-side of the equation.

    What? Yes it does. Facebook needs users to generate revenue. With no users, they can’t sell ads or user data. How else do you think they make money? Do you not think making money is a benefit for the owners of facebook?

    It’s one node in a massive web. And it’s easy to say “Well, you have to do your part because <insert consumerist morality here>”. But mostly it’s just some random asshole on the internet telling me not to use my telephone because AT&T is run by a richer set of random assholes. There’s no material benefit to me and no collective coordinated action that I’m seriously participating in.

    You’re reminding me of Eleanor from the good place. Do you also litter? Refuse to return shopping carts?


  • I haven’t seen any real evidence to that effect.

    Do you accept that facebook is harmful to the world, or would I need to try to prove that? There’s the time they tried to see if they could make people sad by adjusting the feed. (They could)

    If you accept that, it’s a small step to “They benefit from having more users on their platform”. More users means more engagement, which means more ads, and advertisers pay more money for those ads. No one’s going to pay big bucks to advertise their stuff to an empty platform. Facebook’s going to have a harder time selling user data and metadata if users aren’t on there.

    Now, getting one family to stop using facebook is a drop in the bucket. But every family that leaves makes it easier for the next family to leave.






  • Please don’t pretend the lack of argument is a valid one

    I don’t really know what you mean by this

    Do you treat Airplane!, Police Squad!, or Naked Gun as serious, scientific representations, too?

    No, but I don’t think anyone is saying this comic is a serious scientific representation, either.

    What do you think people are saying? Why do you think people don’t like this comic?







  • Yeah, I’m not old enough to have experienced the city in the 70s and 80s. I’ve heard stories but it’s hard to say how credible some of them are, but I believe the city is a lot nicer than it was back then.

    Like, Bryant Park is a nice patch of green in Manhattan. They do yoga classes there. There’s a holiday market. People used to call it needle park because it had some a drug user problem.

    Places change.