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  • If you say chickens are only valuable because they feed humans, you are admitting they do not have any intrinsic value.

    You are misunderstanding the meaning of the word “value” in this context, you almost use it like monetary value, but this is not accurate.

    Also, we are not talking about value for someone, but value for itself. A human is valuable not because he is useful, but for himself. Even Aristotle said that the difference between a free man and a slave is that a free man exists for himself while a slave exists for others. By that rationale, not recognising intrinsic value within oneself but instead viewing ones value in terms of your worth to society is slave mentality.


  • Yes, gods are different in different religions, but why would you, to determine whether something is a god in christianity use pagan standards?

    My point is, that within the logic of christianity you can not say there is more than one god, it is unreasonable to say that christianity is polytheistic.

    Also, “one divinity appearing in multiple forms” is not a polytheistic thing, since you only have one divinity. The trinity does not consist of three gods, but of three hypostases of the same god. My point is that it can only seem like those are three gods, but if you have more deep knowledge of christianity you will never say that.


  • Ok, I will concede to you that pop culture should be considered, however I would not say angels are gods.

    The christian God is the supreme power, he is the monarch of the universe, so to speak, everything is under his authority. An angel is not a god, because he is a creature, not the creator, he is subordinate. He is not all-powerful, he is a servant. Within the logic of christianity there is absolute difference between god and everything else.

    In greek paganism Zeus was the king of the gods. However, he was not allpowerful(there were some henoteistic tendencies, however), other gods were still powerful in their own right, and there were gods he was afraid of(in a famous passage from the Iliad that I do not quite remember, it is mentioned that he was afraid of Nyx). There was a revolution when Kronos was overthrown, as you mentioned. So those two religions are quite different.

    In Jainism, the so called “gods” are a different thing altogether, no need to mention it.

    I do not know much about mormons, aren’t they christians? I thought they were.


  • Well, the way Satan is depicted in pop culture has little to do with actual christianity, and I am not sure why you felt the need to include him, despite the fact he is a very minor character in christianity, and also even in the popular depiction he is not nearly on the same level, as he was created by God, is not omnipotent, omniscient, unlike God, etc.