Yea they seem nice, but they don’t I don’t think they sell laptops with AZERTY keyboards

You’re right, all manufacturers have their issues. I have a hard time finding one where you feel like it’s a safe bet. Which is why I’m leaning toward framework, but the company is young and has far less experience, so it’s also a risk…

I would never again recommend MSI… I bought a 3000€ MSI Creator 3 years ago for work :

• the hinges are breaking apart
• some metal part on the size broke
• the keyboard letter are scraping off
• the microphone on Linux is unusable because of the fans

Reaplcing the keyboard requires a full body replacement, which costs like 300€ 🙃

I’ve also had some very bad experiences with a entry price gaming msi for someone in my family.