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Being willing to host the platform that will rub manufacturers the wrong way and will absolutely net a lawsuit or two is worth giving some credit for.

The person who researches and identifies the key deserves some. The person who writes the guide to publish it on the site deserves some.

Everyone involved deserves credit for their part.

I haven’t bad faithed anything… You clearly don’t understand how hosting a service works, in the case of “thousands of users” 1000 active is a hard lowball.

You’ve clarified nothing. You constantly moved goalposts and pushed random “facts” like those statements changed anything about the original premise you presented and my response to it. You started with “THOUSANDS OF USERS”. Then backed down to 12 two posts later.

THOUSANDS OF USERS -> Okay so let’s take a case of 1000 active users…

UH UH, I didn’t say simultaneous!!! -> Good thing I only took a case of 1000 active users then… BTW we’re not even looking at server costs for processing, just raw bandwidth.

Uh Uh, What about 12 users!!! -> (we are here).

You need help dude. Nobody is coming after you. And nobody misrepresented you. You’re just completely out of your depth, which is okay. But don’t act like somebody is misrepresenting you, the world can read your responses.

So now you’ve backed down from “thousands of users” to a dozen?

If you have THOUSANDS OF USERS (your words)… you should probably at least plan for 1000 concurrents, probably more (remember you have to plan for peaks, not average).

You seem to be missing this repeatedly… I’m not sure how else to present it to you. You made the claim that a decent singular server should be able to host THOUSANDS (with an S… so multiple thousands.) I’m showing you that even if it’s just 1000 concurrents, you’re paying a heavy cost JUST for bandwidth… forget the server. You’re over your head if you think a single server is doing this shit.

I run a plex instance, I have 8gbps internet to my house. I could host probably 80-100 simultaneous streams on that bandwidth of raw blurays. My servers could not handle that load simultaneously (and they’re hooked up as 40gbps internally). If bandwidth is the easy side of this equation (it is)… and your assertions are already failing… Then you’re just plain wrong.

I do know how sentences work. I also know that paragraphs and posts sound be related to each other. Your sentences are not completely divorced from each other.

The point was that you’re claiming to do research on something just to turn around and say something that WILDLY wrong. This discredits any amount of research you would have done.

Doesn’t matter if you say simultaneously or not. You said THOUSANDS… I showed you just 1000. And this was ONLY looking at bandwidth. Not actual server costs.

by my research. A single server of sufficient power could easily serve thousands of users.

That’s some shitty research you’ve done then.

1000 users streaming something that’s 5mbps would be 5gbps.

5gbps isn’t common for consumers… and costs a lot in a datacenter (about 4k/month on the cheaper end).

But the LE/GN cases are that Honey changed URLs and cost them the sale revenue, no?

https://www.cpmlegal.com/assets/htmldocuments/GamersNexus v. Paypal.pdf

a. Nationwide Class: All persons and entities in the United States who participated in an affiliate commission program with a United States eCommerce merchant and had commissions diverted to PayPal as a result of Honey.

So yes, they’re suing on behalf of creators.

But they’re using logic of what is promised/advertised to users… alongside the creator side of it all.

12. Consumers download the PayPal Honey browser extension under the promise that Honey will search the web for the best coupons to ensure consumers pay the lowest prices when checking out with eCommerce merchants […] After this affiliate network partnership is established, on information and belief, Honey deliberately withholds higher-value coupons, directly contradicting Honey’s promise to consumers.

Which we know is inaccurate at this point and honey is lying. Most of the rest will come out in discovery if Honey wants to fight it. And I think it’s safe to say that anything that comes out in discovery will simply hang honey even more than we already know.

It could never apply to ad blockers. You install an ad blocker knowing that it will block stuff… and explicitly WANTING it to do so.

Nobody installed honey knowing that it was manipulating cookies and stuff. The normal layperson who installs it will just think “It’s just chucking in coupon codes into that box!”…

One is predicated on a lie of omission… the other is literally what the user wants. There’s a huge difference…

Nah man, clearly you missed the memo that we now just take every statement out of it’s obvious context and straw man the shit out of everything.

It hurts every real argument against these people when people make stupid arguments like this.

This is not a significant shift with how we are interacting with Google, it is a minor change.

Eh… Most people (Not the tech literate ones) interact with the internet nearly wholly using the Google search bar. To the point where many have NO idea where to put a URL in their phone to actually go straight to a website and often just google the url and click the first link.

For those people, this will be a significant shift.