Ok, what in the AI is going on with that turtle hand?

I guess. I would hope that future commentors can read the first quote from the article and notice I provided a different source to support my point that criticism from other Democrats isn’t hard to find.

Look, the average American is not the most well-reasoned individual. Not always their fault due to the situations we are all in over here. The main cultural systems are primarily focused on punishment, not reward. The average American isn’t well-educated, because again, why would they when there isn’t a tangible, understandable reward?

This means that getting people to do what you want is like herding cats. If you have a group of cats and bring them two food choices, and a large portion of the cats hate both, they will display protest behaviour and pout while the food is picked at by the other cats.

You mentioned in another comment about not living in the past. I had to vent about the protest voters too, but I also understand it is a core, unshakable value for them. The past is important to learn from, and the Dem party needs to do so, or people like Trump will never face actual opposition in the polls.

The main problem with ignoring the past is repeating mistakes. The main frustration with learning from the past is to watch others make those mistakes while they ignore your warnings.

I know it’s rough-and-tumble and this was a long message. Hope you find peace where you can and support from those around you. ❤️

Did you… open the news article?

After months of being rubbished by the American media and the Democrat establishment…

Like, yeah they don’t name a bunch of names, but it’s based in Australia, and examples aren’t hard to find.

Mr. Suozzi, whose district covers a sliver of Queens and who endorsed Mr. Cuomo during the primary, said he still had “serious concerns” about Mr. Mamdani, while Ms. Gillen — citing defund the police rhetoric he has since disavowed and his unflinching critiques of Israel — called him “the absolute wrong choice” for New York City.

Source: New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/25/nyregion/mamdani-democrats-schumer-jeffries.html

That sounds a lot like library ebook renting. Makes sense to me. Ty

Did someone hurt you?

Edit: checked your bio. Someone definitely hurt you.

Welcome to war, where human rights are optional and at the discretion of a select few. People will cheer for death like it’s a gladitorial arena, while others act to mitigate as much suffering as possible. Still others will turn away in disgust and become recluse. No answer is correct; at least until the victor writes the history.

My only (personal) recouse is to focus on my impact at a community level, and hope that I get enough power, money, or influence to eventually do more.

I wish there was an actionable alternative.

I’m willing to be one counterexample in the sea. I am absolutely benefiting from both past American imperialism and the current sales of arms that keeps allowing more atrocities. I used to feel guilt about it, but that didn’t solve anything; neither did staying silent. If all the other loud, noisy, opinionated people in my country can’t keep their mouths shut, I view it as a minor responsibility to at least make them use critical thinking (if possible). I’m saving your comment to show people irl. Hope you stay safe.

Almost. I’m not acting in bad faith and actually want to understand the viewpoint. This last time I was getting empty and irrelevant platidudes to my direct questions, and they didn’t like me pointing that out. I’ve ended plenty of other conversations saying that we clearly have different opinions or values, but I understand better where they are coming from and thank them for explaining it to me.

Edit: I suppose I did sealion at least once back in high school. A girl snarkily asked me, “why are you wearing that?” And when I started to answer, she interrupted saying, “see, I don’t really care.” I told her that was too bad and she probably shouldn’t have asked before following her until I was done with my extended history over my t-shirt.

Claiming a basic false thing as something true and saying that everyone keeps trying to gaslight you might work. Same as the stackexchange effect, people will engage to correct you more than anything else. Making it relate to insulting a large group would probably help too ig.

Oh of course. They leave dissatisfied each time.

I take my time to request they explain their entire “argument” until they are so frustrated with their own inaccuracies they decide to stop commenting. Just had some fun with that yesterday. Make it clear to those who come after.

That is a fair point. This spurred me to do some quick research into global arms dealers and diplomatic relations. Yeah, I’d say the USA is very much enabling Israel to commit genocide. It really grinds me up how nearly anyone who could have become president would have kept the exports going. I suppose if the USA hadn’t supplied them, Italy (more specifically Rome) would have been the next most likely arms dealer for Israel. They would have been a lot easier to diplomatically pressure into stopping arms-deals though. Idk whether that would be enough to prevent the genocide, but it would probably have reduced the severity at least.

He, more than anyone else, is why the genocide was able to happen in the first place.

? Pretty bold claim there. I’d say it’s Netanyahu, but there was a lot of support from Biden and his administration for sure.

You are correct. The “leaders” don’t. The majority of Americans are also disillusioned into hating people not responsible at all for the struggles they have to face. The soverignty of nations should be respected, but that hasn’t, historically, been the American way either.

I love seeing these type of interactions on Lemmy.

For my two cents, this is the main thing I told every Trump supporter I talked with why I would never vote for him. Every other reason they had dumb counterarguments for, but not kids in cages. None of them liked the idea when it happened the first time. Now I have two things to ask them about.

1. How they feel about kids in cages again?
2. How do they like the economy they voted for?

I’m glad you remain reasonable. I almost downvoted out of principle, but this feels like the intended use for image AI.

Ohh, I like that one.