• FireRetardant@lemmy.world
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    This could be offset by tax rebates for the EV, or by taxing gasoline and diesel so much that you break even or still come out on top even with the weight tax.

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      Stop fossil fuel subsidies in terms of fuel for vehicles and use that budget to: subsidize EV adoption + charging instead.

      https://www.eea.europa.eu/en/analysis/indicators/fossil-fuel-subsidies

      Issue with this? The people who already don’t have much money will have a very hard time as driving will be even more expensive for them and getting a new car already requires a good amount of spendable money (certainly when they’d have to sell their car to an exporter with less people wanting gas cars). I personally don’t know how we’d tackle this issue.

      I’m also for a usage based tax, after x Liters of fuel you pay more taxes (on a yearly basis) but don’t think they could realistically do this

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        IMO the money would be better spent to subsidize electrified trasnit. In north america that money could also be used to support dense housing projects along that transit corridor, providing more ridership for the new transit and tackling the housing crisis. This is a better solution because electrified transit is even more energy and resource efficient than private electric vehicles and the transit is more accessible to everyone than private electric vehicles are

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          Oh yeah 100%

          Here in the Netherlands our public transport is pretty well done, but the main issue is that the cost of tickets is unbearably high for our train system so having that cheaper would certainly increase ridership and decrease car dependency

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            Its so hard hearing the term “car dependancy” come out from the netherlands while I’m stuck in North America. Theres definitely room for improvement still in the netherlands but at least the bones of the city are still intact. Its arguable harder to fix most of north america in its current state than starting fresh would have been.

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              Oh yeah it isn’t nearly as bad as the US but outside of big cities you’re still dependent on your car

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          Forget about the housing. If the cost of personal-car commuting were to skyrocket, people would naturally gravitate to be near transit hubs.

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            North America has a density problem ever since they bulldozed downtowns to build surface level parking. We need to increase the density in those areas to support transit. For the most part that housing doesn’t exist, and what does is often considered luxury and is in high demand because even north americans like transit oriented developments.

            Someone has to increase the density around major transit corridors and the private sector has proved they only care about developing luxury condos in those areas. A government run and funded affordable housing initiative could help people who need access to transit the most move into transit oriented neighborhoods.

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        Cyclists will be thankful that they’re being killed by electric SUVs, not petrol SUVs.

        I’m also for a usage based tax, after x Liters of fuel you pay more taxes (on a yearly basis)

        That’d require a tachygraph or intrusive surveillance of road use. Taxing vehicle dimensions and weight is much simple.