• AnIndefiniteArticle@sh.itjust.works
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    It was the promise that he could be negotiated to the left.

    Instead Joe gave us a country producing the most oil and gas in world history, no movement on healthcare, etc.

    The weather is going crazy because of the increase in fossil fuels Biden presided over.

    He broke the deal that he could be brought left on economic/environmental/medical issues.

    Kamala promised more of the same.

    How can you expect anyone to trust the same deal from the VP that the P didn’t make good on?

    Joe didn’t deliver, and Kamala didn’t promise anything new.

    Four more years of wildfire.

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        Ok, one side says it with actions, but the other says it with actions and words.

        That sounds like one side being honest.

        Drillin’ Joe was sure acting like it was a hoax!

        I voted Kamala, but I understand sitting out.

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          Listen, as a brown person in America, just be honest.

          You caea about the genocide of brown people elsewhere, just not here.

          It’s OK, the vote is over, you don’t have to deny it anymore, we get it, it’s not like we’re surprised or anything, it’s basically America’s legacy.

          The shocking part?

          We thought you at least cared about women, but you’re literally no better than the racist sexist fascist neoconfederates that are proud to vote Trump.

          Just be honest with your words, your actions already spoke the truth.

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            You caea about the genocide of brown people elsewhere, just not here.

            What was Biden doing to stop the killing in his own country?

            You’ve got states lawlessly executing innocent men. You’ve got women bleeding out on hospital floors because doctors don’t want to be convicted of doing an illegal abortion. Over a million COVID deaths and counting. The rollback of post-COVID economic relief combined with the spike in inflation has driven up national poverty and thrown thousands more Americans out on the street despite millions of vacant units. Storms are killing Americans. Power failures are killing Americans. Lack of pharmaceuticals are killing Americans. Police violence. Vigilantism. The oppressive heat.

            Biden’s been in charge though it all.

            Just be honest with your words, your actions already spoke the truth.

            Right back atcha.

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              Ignorant moron.

              https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/02/us/alabama-hanging-death-dennoriss-richardson/index.html

              https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/fbi-civil-rights-investigation-nc-police-shooting-1.6004160

              There are hundreds of these investigations, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Chauvin was in 2021

              Seriously, as a brown person, shut the fucking fuck up! You have no idea what living in this country under republicans is like, you can’t begin to imagine it and you need to take your privileged dick out of your overprivileged ass and realize what many of us are going to have to face now.

              Literally have the KKK reforming in anticipation of his inauguration, it’s “good people on both sides” all over again.

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                Seriously, as a brown person, shut the fucking fuck up! You have no idea what living in this country under republicans is like

                Tell it to Eric Adams, a man who took office under the Democratic flag and threw our people directly under the bus. Tell it to Lori Lightfoot, London Breed, John Whitmire - it seems like every Dem mayor has made it open season on the homeless and the vulnerable.

                But you don’t want to see this, because you think politics is a spectator sport.

                Literally have the KKK reforming in anticipation of his inauguration,

                With the blessing of every law enforcement agency in the country, it seems.

                Blue Lives Dems don’t seem to mind.

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                  I could not dream of better evidence of a Lemming being a troll than replying to someone saying they’re scared for their life under the current political administration with “you think politics is a spectator sport”.

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    Ok. First. Those votes were not, like, commies or something. Communists broadly (but not universally ) have no faith in electoral politics beyond the ability to demonstrate how useless electoral politics are for the kinds of change they see as required. The missing votes are likely non-explicitly-ideological Americans, and the disenfranchised left wing of the Democrat coalition, who are not revolutionary socialists - they are better described as social democrats. And why so many of them voted for Biden was, at least in significant part three things that you’re pretending don’t exist with this meme.

    1. Tremendous dislike of Trump… which is actually still true, but he was not currently the president during this election. Trump had just spent the last few months massively fucking up the pandemic response very publicly and got covid immediately prior to the election, which made him look stupid and incompetent.

    2. Because of COVID policies, voting had literally never been easier. Shit loads of people voted early because it was universally available. Led to highest turnout ever.

    3. A competitive democratic primary process meant that we had a candidate selection process people could believe in to some degree. Brenie and Biden ran, and Biden won. Bernie voters saw that, looked at the situation and said “This is tolerable because we had a real process, and we can accept Biden as a stop gap under the conditions of Trump needing to be removed, and Biden being a 1 term President”. It wasn’t 2016, where a significant portion of potential Democrat voters saw the DNC’s treatment of Bernie as unfair, and it wasn’t 2024 where Biden decided to run with no true Primary after the deal was “single term president”, then abruptly dropped out (good idea, shoulda done it 2 years earlier) and effectively appointed his successor by decree.

    2020 was an anomaly, and as is true of 2020 in most data sets, using it as a comparison point requires many many qualifications, but Trump gained 40000 votes, Harris lost 10 million. Trump did not perform better, Harris lost voter enthusiasm, which hasn’t actually been on the Democrat’s side in presidential elections (which have more non-explicitly-ideological voters) since, like, Obama. It’s not even necessarily that she needed to be “more left”. It’s that she needed to reflect the public’s distrust of the political status quo and promise material gain for working people explicitly at the expense of someone else (Trump chose , for instance, immigrants and the democrats as the bad guys, but Harris could have chosen, say, rich fuckers like Musk) . She needed to be ready to rip up the floor boards, and she wasn’t even ready to say she’d break from fucking Biden (who is broadly unpopular) on policy.

    I really, really wish y’all democrats would stop trying to purge your own party of any dissent, because y’all coming out of this with the right lesson will be the difference between a brief period of Republican control, or several elections cycles of Democrats being unviable as a party.

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        Oh I get it now. You’re saying that “there won’t be a next election”. Careful with the self fufulling prophecies. If you don’t want to succumb to that, I recommend getting involved locally. Whoever you trust electorally will need your help now to build a bulwark for 2026, and getting your hands dirty will help you get over the pessimism.

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        y’all don’t get it do you. It hasn’t sunk in yet.

        Don’t worry, you’ll get there. Probably in about six months

        Blue conservatives jerking themselves off over what trump will do to the people they dislike is so fucking god damn cringe.

        Fuck First-past-the-post voting for making me have to be “allies” with you.

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    I mean, Harris and the Dems didn’t even try, like seriously. Getting Beyonce and all the other celebrities our fellow moronic Americans already see as members of the illuminati is not trying, it’s literally the opposite

    I mean, they spent $50m+ in fuckin Ohio! We lost fuckin Georgia while they were jerking off Cheney’s and trying to convince white folks in the suburbs not to be who they are

    It’s legit insane to see the party straightup abandon working class demographics. Then again, this is the same party that now literally spends millions of dollars each primary on getting votes for Republican politicians