• Stovetop@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Sadly Mass is also close to #1 in terms of cost of living.

    I like it here but I don’t like what it costs.

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      Oh no! #1 in cost of living and #1 in quality if life? And among the lowest poverty?

      Do people really just need social support to thrive? No way! It’s gotta be stuff! Cheap stuff! That’s what life’s all about!

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        3 months ago

        How is Massachusetts being outrageously expensive not diametrically opposed to “quality of life”? The average person can’t get ahead in Massachusetts which is why they are leaving to go elsewhere.

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    Another way to view this is that the poor are voting republican now. Trump won those making less than $100,000 handedly while Harris won those making above. Probably because he’s offering them a solution to there problems, deport the immigrants and bring manufacturing back. His plan is dumb and won’t work but at least he’s putting something forward unlike Harris who says everything will stay the same.

    The democrats are slowly becoming the party of the out of touch elite, and memes like this don’t help. The democrats need to be putting forward solutions to those problems, and trump has shown it doesn’t matter if they’re viable or will actually help. If these “dumb poor people are rubes who will fall for anything” give them something to fall for. Say your going to tax the billionaires at 50% and use that money to pay for Healthcare and child care, don’t cozy up to them so you can raise another billion dollars to lose another election .

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          3 months ago

          How do you communicate effectively to someone with their fingers in their ears screaming nananananananana? Please advise, oh political oracle.

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            3 months ago

            You go on Joe Rogan for one. Kamala ran the last presidential campaign that will ever rely so heavily on the legacy media apparatus. This whole cycle proved that they are only broadcasting to themselves and real people are elsewhere on podcasts, twitter and YT.

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      3 months ago

      The Democrats must be doing something right, if their states have better everything.

      Maybe if the Republicans would listen to us, we could all have the best schools and hospitals.

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        3 months ago

        They don’t have better retention rates.

        CA, NY, IL and MA are all in the top 5 for states that have the most people leaving.

        TX, FL, NC and AZ are attracting the most people.

        Massachusetts has priced out average people. If you aren’t the inheritor of some generational wealth you have a better chance of being upwardly mobile elsewhere.

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    Wasn’t Oklahoma supposed to be given back to the native tribes? Like more than 50% of it?

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        Unlike Massachusetts which was totally uninhabited when people settled there.

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    Massachusetts is also 4th in the country for states with the most people leaving to live elsewhere.

    No doubt due to cost of living because Massachusetts is ridiculously expensive. The friends I have there are either leaving or totally resigned to not owning a house or ever retiring. Comparing a historically important coastal population center to a historically poor and strategically insignificant flyover state doesn’t prove much.

    The states with highest domestic emigration (e.g. people voting with their feet to leave) are overwhelmingly left leaning. (Except for Louisiana and Ohio)

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      strategically insignificant flyover state

      Cushing, OK has a bone to pick with this.

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        Assuming that is a missile silo or something in which case I stand corrected on that front!

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          Major petroleum marketplace. The commodity trading floor is in a big city somewhere else. But a lot of the oil actually changes hands in our around Cushing.

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            Gotcha. FWIW I have no bone to pick with Oklahoma at all. If anything the fact that people criticize it for being a backwater probably means that it’s awesome.

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      So progressive places make a place so desirable to live in that people are willing to compete with each other for the experience.

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        “Why are blue states always so expensive?!”. It’s supply and demand. High demand to live someplace makes it expensive.

        My million dollar house is worth as much as it is because of its located near high paying jobs, good school, and good neighbors. It’s expensive to live where I live because lots of people want to live here.

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          There’s higher demand to live in Florida and Texas. Look at the domestic immigration numbers. People are leaving CA, NY, IL and MA in droves.

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        How is people leaving almost exclusively “progressive” places an indicator of competition?

        Look at the inverse of that chart. Most people in the country are moving to places like Florida, Texas and Idaho.