I agree, I really don’t like people saying it was Bill Clinton, there is currently only evidence against that claim. But your second statement seems disingenuous, as there isn’t any sign that it was purely a joke, either. A better way to say your second line without showing a bias would be to say that “There is no evidence to show whether or not it was a joke, or to be taken seriously.” To be clear, the quote from Mark Epstein was “For the avoidance of doubt, the reference to ‘Bubba’ in this correspondence is not, in any way, a reference to former President Bill Clinton. Any attempt to conflate that reference with President Clinton, or to read sweeping implications into them, misrepresents both the purpose and the tone of the original correspondence.”
There are a few ways to read this response, one being that it was all a joke, one being that it did happen and Bill Clinton wasn’t involved, and Putin doesn’t have the picture, and one being that it did happen, Bill Clinton wasn’t involved, and Putin does have the pictures. Without further clarification, we don’t know for certain which of these is the truth.
I do appreciate your desire to keep the facts straight.I know that it’s fun to jump to conclusions and speculate, but we are doing the credibility of anyone left of republicans a disservice when we spread lies. It makes it much easier for the Rupublicans at the top to spin a narritive that their followers can dismiss the things we say. I hate Trump as much as the next guy, but he does enough stuff to paint himself a hypocrite that there’s no need to embellish the truth.
Hmm yeah I knew that other commenter who insisted everyone was taking it as a joke but pretending it was literal was full of shit… Anyway.
How are you to assess their delivery? You’re not (presumably) their friend. The fact that it doesn’t come of as humorous to an external reader shouldn’t be a surprise - or shall we analyse some of your texts without context :P
Someone else put forward the completely plausible scenario of a photo of Trump in a position where it kind of looks like he’s sucking off Clinton, which became an in-joke. Is that so unbelievable to you?
This is a case of those opposed to trump being completely credulous because it suits their beliefs, and noone would be taking it seriously if it were someone more aligned with them - which in that case would be very reasonable.
Nothing useful to say, then. It’s not surprising that you’re not really able to think critically about what I’ve said given your inability to think critically about an email.
I mean, you’re at a party and you get drunk and high and pull dumb stunts with your friends, someone snaps a photo of it. I doubt he actually sucked someone off, but there’s definitely a photo of him looking like he did, for comedic effect.
Because, he’s a pedophile, he don’t do old men and horses, only young children pissing in his mouth.
It’s honestly making American liberals look as stupid as MAGA/QAnon dipshits. In no kind of reality did Donald Trump blow Bill Clinton and it’s so ridiculous that of all the things in the emails THIS is what the supposedly more sensible and intelligent left has decided to waste its energy on.
When it shows up at my country’s border (and it will, because as you confirm, Americans are clearly desperate for anyone but themselves to clean up their garbage), I assure you we will be ready.
There is a line in an email that refers to “trump blowing bubba”.
It’s not clear who “bubba” is, but it’s one of Clinton’s nicknames.
More importantly though, it’s not clear that the line is intended to be taken seriously. Obviously a lot of people want it to be true though.
I agree, I really don’t like people saying it was Bill Clinton, there is currently only evidence against that claim. But your second statement seems disingenuous, as there isn’t any sign that it was purely a joke, either. A better way to say your second line without showing a bias would be to say that “There is no evidence to show whether or not it was a joke, or to be taken seriously.” To be clear, the quote from Mark Epstein was “For the avoidance of doubt, the reference to ‘Bubba’ in this correspondence is not, in any way, a reference to former President Bill Clinton. Any attempt to conflate that reference with President Clinton, or to read sweeping implications into them, misrepresents both the purpose and the tone of the original correspondence.”
There are a few ways to read this response, one being that it was all a joke, one being that it did happen and Bill Clinton wasn’t involved, and Putin doesn’t have the picture, and one being that it did happen, Bill Clinton wasn’t involved, and Putin does have the pictures. Without further clarification, we don’t know for certain which of these is the truth.
I do appreciate your desire to keep the facts straight.I know that it’s fun to jump to conclusions and speculate, but we are doing the credibility of anyone left of republicans a disservice when we spread lies. It makes it much easier for the Rupublicans at the top to spin a narritive that their followers can dismiss the things we say. I hate Trump as much as the next guy, but he does enough stuff to paint himself a hypocrite that there’s no need to embellish the truth.
The line is about Putin having pictures of Donnie blowing Bubba which implies Russian blackmail.
Yes, Donnie is Trump and Bubba is Clinton and it is possible that is is just dark humor but if so their delivery sucks.
Hmm yeah I knew that other commenter who insisted everyone was taking it as a joke but pretending it was literal was full of shit… Anyway.
How are you to assess their delivery? You’re not (presumably) their friend. The fact that it doesn’t come of as humorous to an external reader shouldn’t be a surprise - or shall we analyse some of your texts without context :P
Someone else put forward the completely plausible scenario of a photo of Trump in a position where it kind of looks like he’s sucking off Clinton, which became an in-joke. Is that so unbelievable to you?
This is a case of those opposed to trump being completely credulous because it suits their beliefs, and noone would be taking it seriously if it were someone more aligned with them - which in that case would be very reasonable.
Settle down, Donnie.
Nothing useful to say, then. It’s not surprising that you’re not really able to think critically about what I’ve said given your inability to think critically about an email.
No u
Welp, it’s not worth seeing your “contributions” around here, is it.
We were having fun in this shitposting sub, maybe try relaxing a bit?
I mean, you’re at a party and you get drunk and high and pull dumb stunts with your friends, someone snaps a photo of it. I doubt he actually sucked someone off, but there’s definitely a photo of him looking like he did, for comedic effect.
Because, he’s a pedophile, he don’t do old men and horses, only young children pissing in his mouth.
What a world
It’s honestly making American liberals look as stupid as MAGA/QAnon dipshits. In no kind of reality did Donald Trump blow Bill Clinton and it’s so ridiculous that of all the things in the emails THIS is what the supposedly more sensible and intelligent left has decided to waste its energy on.
Difference is we all know that, but we’re running with it FOX style, to make a fucking point.
Conservative dipshits do not understand “points” and fascists are just happy you’re making memes instead of throwing punches.
Who the fuck you think you talking to about not throwing punches?
Conservative dipshits don’t understand anything and there’s no fancy way of phrasing your point or argument that’s gonna penetrate those thick skulls.
They’re adept at doing mental gymnastics and will keep doing backflips over the topic.
Might as well have some fun.
Yeah, we’re dancing while Nero plays the fiddle while he burns Rome
Right.
I’m fuzzy on my history- remind me again how much “fun” it took to put Hitler and his cronies in the ground? Can’t recall.
Well, git 'er done, tiger
When it shows up at my country’s border (and it will, because as you confirm, Americans are clearly desperate for anyone but themselves to clean up their garbage), I assure you we will be ready.
Very much unconvinced that all of you are in on that joke!
Then you probably lack social skills and education.
Neither of which I will be receiving from you, evidently
I remember you from before. You continue to earn the tag I gave you. BoTh SiDeS and all tho
Not sure what “both sides” you’re talking about here