i can’t even guess as to why they went quiet. not one guess at all. we will never know.

edit: well they’re not quiet now once they get called out

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    Hot take: Withholding voting for either party is a valid form of protest when neither party is standing for its people.

    If they want to win the support of their constituents, its high time to change how the party is going to operate going forward.

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      You vote based on the choices you’re presented, not the ones you like. Like it or not a no vote is a vote one way or another.

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    Another day, another Lemmy post blaming leftists instead of Republicans, conservatives, racists, and their enablers.

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        Do you have any facts that show it was Pro-Palestinians that failed to show up? Instead of America just wanting the reactionary populism?

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      Another day, another commenter putting words into my mouth to make themselves feel better. No shit Republicans and the sycophant media are to blame, I blame them all the time. but the disingenuous “abandon harris” crowd sure didn’t help either. You’re welcome to keep ignoring context though, that’s never stopped anyone around here before.

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    Amazingly, nobody’s happy that the dems decided to sacrifice the whole country rather than budge on exterminating the Palestinians.

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    Real Talk, I’m getting real tired of everyone from the vaguely right of center to the farthest reaches of the left getting involved in this shit slinging blame game.

    I legit don’t care anymore who you voted for (edit: so long as it wasn’t Trump I mean. But even then, time to start your redemption arc if you did). We are past the election and now all share the same immediate issues.

    Folks who abstained from voting (or voted 3rd party) because you couldn’t stomach the lesser of two evils, good news, that choice is gone. You can stop parroting the idea that anyone who voted Blue did so “in support of genocide”. It should be clear by now those who voted Blue really were just doing their best in a bad situation, they are not your enemies.

    Folks who voted Blue because you believe supporting the lesser evil is in service of the greater good. Good news, that burden is also gone. You can stop parroting the idea that someone who can’t stomach voting for people who would play politics with genocide is really just a tankie or a bot. Not every one is willing to play game theory with people’s lives, that doesn’t mean they are your enemies.

    Anyone who truly wants to push for solidarity and human rights for all is an ally of mine. And I propose we bury the hatchet, preferably in the objectives of fascists, before its too late.

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      I think it is important to point out the failings of others. Otherwise they may not connect the dots and learn from their mistakes.

      Sometimes a mistake is innocent, say you forgot to zip up your fly. It’s important to know you forgot to do so as it could be very socially embarrassing.

      Sometimes one could accidentally cut someone off in traffic because they didn’t see them. A good honk notifies them of their mistake and will hopefully drive home the fact that they probably need to pay better attention to traffic.

      Pointing out that abstaining and or choosing not to vote enabled the election of the greater of two evils is equally important.

      Rock on OP. Never let them forget!

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        Then point at the FAILED DEMOCRAT PARTY instead of voters. When biden announced he was running for re-election their own internal polling showed he’d lose. They don’t fucking care, it’s all theatre to them. Their corporate owners are happy and the donations continue to flow in from foolish rubes like you who will gladly vote blue no matter who right off a fucking cliff.

        Kamala Harris spent a billion dollars and still fucking lost. But yeah go blame voters that will ensure the same thing happens in 2028 should we be so lucky to pretend to play democracy again. And it is pretend. Because if you don’t vote correctly you’re the worst person to ever exist.

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    Kamala “Frack the Planet” Harris was not going to save the planet.

    I’m comfortable with my decision to not vote for genocide, and I will continue to not vote for warhawks.

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      You did vote for genocide though. You can tell yourself whatever it is that you think you need to hear in order to preserve your sanity, but you are directly, partly, responsible for what happens next.

      I hope you will be paying attention.

      And if Harris would have won, and if she would have nominated Mike Huckabee, and if she would have been doing the things that Trump is about to do in the coming months, I would be saying and feeling the same way about myself.

      It’s called being honest with yourself. You should try it sometime.

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        Actually, if we are all in agreement that the two major parties both pushed genocide, then by me voting third party, I actually used two votes against genocide by not voting either for trump or kamala. Gee, lib math sure is fun.

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          What is “lib math”?

          I do know that actual math shows that there were no third parties this election that had a mathematical chance to win. They were not on enough ballots.

          You threw your vote away, which, when fascism is on the ballot, is a vote for fascism. You are a fascist.

          But hey, whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep once you actually see the actual, tangible results of Trump’s win in Palestine coming this January.

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            So all the Arab and Muslim Americans in Dearborn who withheld votes for kamala - you know, the ones who got tired of seeing their brothers and sisters blown to shit in Lebanon and Palestine - are they fascists?

            It’s cute watching you try to reconcile fascism in your country while following the exact historical blueprint that liberals always do when fascism comes knocking: punch left, blame minorities. I know which side you’ll be on when shit gets volatile. Textbook liberal naivety, with zero understanding of history or the conditions that lead to fascism.

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              Yes, they unwittingly supported fascists. The ones who have since come out and admitted that they were fooled are not fascists.

              The rest, yes. They are. Sorry if that offends you or something.

              If you have a table with 10 people eating, and 9 of them are fascists: you have a table of 10 fascists.

              They thrive on useful idiots. It’s a vital aspect of taking and holding power.

              I’m not a fucking liberal, I’m just not deluded. Jesus fucking Christ, leftists are so insufferable. This is why we never get anything done. Bullshit infighting and purity tests.

              And it’s so easy for anyone with interest in destabilizing any possible opposition to what is essentially become a one-party state, to stir shit up.

              Just plant the seed, and watch the left eat itself like it always does.

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                Tell me, how are we to address these Arab and Muslim American fascists? What’s the course of action for these fascists that didn’t vote for kamala?

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          You voted for Donald Trump by throwing your vote away on a party that literally could not, mathematically, win.

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            You threw your vote away by voting for Harris who literally could not, mathematically, win.

            If more people like you voted 3rd party they would have a chance but instead you insist on voting for dems who run terrible campaigns with candidates that no one wants.

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    90% of them were Russian/ Iranian/ Chinese/ North Korean trolls or bots. They got what they wanted, so it’s on to the next thing. Probably undermining support for Ukraine.

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    It’s so weird. Gaza is extremely important and deserving of the attention. It’s genocide, and it’s horrific. But is no one else important? Because we can’t save Gaza immediately, it’s really better to set outselevs on fire so we can burn together? Like, real talk, Harris will be fine. Biden will be fine. It’s our friends and neighbors who are going to be deported, harassed, laid off, homeless and scared for a minimum of four years.

    I wouldn’t say they’re gone though. I’ve been down voted, told “my kind/type” are all talk, or that I’m okay with murder, I voted for genocide, the usual. But I couldn’t sit and do nothing.

    But I guess this is what they wanted. The dems have been taught a lesson, we’re moving headfirst into a dictatorship, and Gaza is no safer, but their conscious is clear, somehow.