Man who is the CEO of a business selling mass surveillance beyond the likes of even George Orwell’s 1984 says we should run head first into a surveillance state from which he will directly profit from.
Hell no
anything is preferable to people like you
The public needs public mass surveillance on CEOs and the top 1% only. They are the top threat to the world
1000% this.
They’re predators, both sexually and economically, and society has let them get away with their plans for far too long.
This is Bubble-101. Before the thing exists, imagine the future…
threatening that another country will get there first combined with pure players like Nvidia, the uncertainty of whether or not it could be a good investment and being able to convince governments and investors to pump money into it.
If AGI ever becomes what they are promising, everything after 2022 should be a case study for marketing and communications students because they are doing a piss-poor job inspiring confidence and just sound like grifters.
If you’ve never seen this guy giving a talk, it’s worth looking at. This guy is a total tweeker. Can’t sit still, and has insane thoughts he’s just willing to say in public.
What’s crazy is I agree with some of what he says, but disagree entirely with his company.
Basically, he says the Antichrist promises security in exchange for giving up your freedom. However, his company does exactly that, it promises security in exchange for taking away freedom from the people. So at best he’s a hypocrite and at worst an accelerationist.
I agree that people are willing to trade freedom for security, but I disagree that’s what governments should do. Governments need to protect freedoms first, and security second.
Oh! This must be the guy who was called out on that exact thing and it gave him serious pause before he was able to jump-start the bullsh-tting part of his brain.
I bet you’d be able to get a great grip on his hair as you wind up with the other hand for that oh-so-punchable face.
Fuckin lunatics.
Fuckin lunatics with money, power and agenda.
I hope he puts some camaras near his house. Then we’ll all know where he is at all times.
CEOs are getting too comfortable again. One needs to be pew-pewed in the streets to thin the herd and guarantee next year’s harvest!
Those are the only two options???
China WILL win the AI race and that’s because they invested in infrastructure and their power grid.
The US could have done that too, but we gave the money to billionaires instead. Building a surveillance state doesn’t fix any of the mistakes we made and they’ll still win the AI race.
Both CCP and US Republicans are evil, but republicans are also stupid.
Evil would obviously win against Evil+Stupid
Not to sound like a tankie but China has made smarter decisions with regard to power generation. The current shift away from renewables (and shift back to fossil fuel) AND more reliance on central power generation are great for billionaires but just dumb for every other reason. And with the what appears to be advancing in battery technology more distributed solar cells with local storage would free up more power for the power hungry data centers. Not to mention the AI programs there are not run by douchebags like Sam Altman and Mustafa Suleyman.
I also think the current path of AGI study via more advanced LLM research is the wrong path. A language generator is never going to be “smart”. But what do I know, I don’t have billions of dollars and lie constantly.
So we need to start covert anti-corruption efforts n China, since China will win, we don’t want a single party member destroying the world…I don’t know what we can actually do, but it is crucial for the human race that China develops more benevolent values if at all possible.
Can somebody please hack this guys socials and leak all his private info so we see him eat his words?
Ask AI to do it
Actual humans believe life without Palantir is preferable to China winning the AI race.
Well this Palantir the originals can stay, those that were not lost.
True
The whole reason China winning would be bad is because of their surveillance state ensuring no one gets around their curtailment of civil liberties…
China has higher government approval rates than any western country. The whole “Chinese surveillance state” myth stems from western media propaganda. Go ask a Chinese person about the dreaded “social credit score” system and they literally don’t know what it is, it’s just western lies. The west has literal journalist prisoners like Assange, the UK is enjailing people for supporting Palestine, and heroes like Snowden had to migrate to other countries due to political persecution for revealing the depth of the western surveillance state. It’s all projection with China.
The culpability and misdirection of western states is not evidence for the innocence of China or anyone else.
i know real Chinese people who left china because of how bad it is there, not because of socialism, but because of the government surveillance and how they treat people.
I’ve directed the Master’s and Bachelor’s thesis of several Chinese students here in Europe, and literally all of them except one have returned to China because life there is better. The one who stayed, personally told me that he used to be Chinese opposition, but after some years in Europe seeing the shitshow we have and the impending rise of fascism, he’s not as critical of the Chinese government anymore.
Your sample is biased: you’ve only spoken to the Chinese émigrés, so you’re suffering from survivor bias.
sounds like the ones who pledged allegiance to the party.
Can you tell me what notable event happened in China on June 3, 1989?
Hah, you’re so freaking original, mate! I bet nobody ever here heard of that one!
But sure: on June 3rd, 1989, after weeks of protests in Beijing (not in all of China), some violent western-funded protestors murdered some PLA soldiers. Violence ensued (funnily enough outside Tiananmen Square, despite what western state propaganda tells you) and some people died in clashes between police/military and protestors. Ultimately, a western-backed colour revolution was averted, and thankfully the Chinese government still exists, providing the world with 95ish% of the solar photovoltaic production :)
murdered some PLA soldiers
people died in clashes between police/military and protestors
In the Xinhai Revolution, they killed Qing troops. I don’t see anything wrong with it.
So now “violence bad”? I thought y’all are advocating for Americans to overthow the US regime. So… is violence okay or no?
I’m gonna quote your leader:
革命无罪，造反有理！
You can see the surveillance and self censorship by spending any amount of time on a Chinese app like Red Note.
Unlike western media, famously owned by altruistic people like sociopath Palantir collaborator Zuckerberg, or Twitter being owned by a literal sieg-heiling Nazi.
You can see the censorship by opening Russia Today in the EU and seeing how all Russian media has been banned, such freedom of speech and anti censorship in the west, threatening to ban Tiktok because it’s not controlled by American corpos! Surely no censorship on Reddit either or YouTube!! It’s literally all projection
Ah yes, the west is a shitshow, so that somehow makes anything China can do ok.
You are going to live under China, better do something to make sure we SURVIVE.
The original comment I responded to was comparing the west to China and saying that the reason why China shouldn’t win is because it’s more repressive. I explained how that’s not the case, so me comparing to the west is relevant in this instance.
I dont quite understand your second paragraph, care to explain?
2nd paragraph: China has an industrial base that can no longer be competed with. This is the winning recipe, so they will likely control the world.
So how well all of humanity fares, depends on how the leadership in China decides to treat us. If we end up with say, a chinese Trump, we are done for. If we end up with some miracle in China where the leader is actually kind of benevolent, humanity has a shot.
We should invest everything we can into ensuring the later.
that still doesn’t absolve what china does.
The original comment I responded to was saying “we don’t want China to win because it’s very repressive”. If the west turns out to be at least as repressive, this argument disappears, which was my entire point.
no it doesnt, i don’t want any of them to win.
