It’s going to be really hard to recover from this shit. And most people will not understand that the tariff impacts that are just starting and still escalating and such will continue on unless we somehow get other countries to stop immediately… But why would they trust the U.S. after this. Why would someone in say Canada say, “sure I’ll buy a bottle of wine from the U.S. now”, or why would countries drop reactionary tariffs against the U.S. if they have set up new trade partners they may see as more reliable. Why hurt those new trade deals by believing the U.S. won’t try to fuck them over a few years down the line.
Buying stuff from the US? That’ll most likely return though at slightly reduced numbers because it doesn’t hurt to have multiple suppliers.
Investing in US facilities? Depends: Distribution for consumption, sure, minimal risk so long as the economy is doing ok there’s a large consumer market to access.
Manufacturing facilities? Much more risky and less likely to return.
The erratic behavior of the president is seen as a risk from a business standpoint.
Imagine you need capital to build a factory plant in the US but it’s unclear if this is going to work out. After the thing with Hyundai, no one is going to greenlight this anymore.
The trust may return after Trump but maybe the next right winger is going to be isolationist too.
Was this tariff thing part project 25? It’s so dumb from an econ standpoint, where is this even coming from?
even in the us, GOOD wine is imported from the EU, france, germany, spain,etc, plus things like OLIVES/olive oil is source in the mediterrenean countries and imported to the us, they have the natural climate for those and we dont. except may california sinc its similar.
One of the reasons California has “good” wine is because most of the vineyards in Italy and France were dying from root rot, in an effort to save all of the vines dying they grafted the healthy vines onto roots in California and let them start to grow there. (Edit: turns out it was Missouri). Then we transported some of the healthy roots/grafted vines back to Italy and France, and the California (edit: “American rootstock”) roots were immune from the disease causing the rot. Forever fusing some of their grapes/vines history
Do you have a source for that? I’ve heard about how during the Great French Wine Blight that nearly all French wineries now use grafted root stock since American plants were resistant. But I’ve never read anything about California’s vines being grafted with French or Italian vines and grown in California to make “good” wine.
Ah your article shows most of the rootstock coming from Missouri during that blight. I’ll have to double check and find a source where I remember that from.
Edit: I believe my thoughts were because Vitis Vinifera is often grafted onto Vitis californica rootstock. But it looks like it was mostly mix breeds of Vitis rupestris.
Always fun to see more how random animals/plants nearly destroy and are also supporting systems for each other worldwide at this point.
Mediterranean climates can be found in Europe, Africa, Australia, the Middle East, California and Chile.
Americans drink wine mostly produced in America, not imported. The US also grows a lot of olives.
It’s going to be really hard to recover from this shit. And most people will not understand that the tariff impacts that are just starting and still escalating and such will continue on unless we somehow get other countries to stop immediately… But why would they trust the U.S. after this. Why would someone in say Canada say, “sure I’ll buy a bottle of wine from the U.S. now”, or why would countries drop reactionary tariffs against the U.S. if they have set up new trade partners they may see as more reliable. Why hurt those new trade deals by believing the U.S. won’t try to fuck them over a few years down the line.
Buying stuff from the US? That’ll most likely return though at slightly reduced numbers because it doesn’t hurt to have multiple suppliers.
Investing in US facilities? Depends: Distribution for consumption, sure, minimal risk so long as the economy is doing ok there’s a large consumer market to access.
Manufacturing facilities? Much more risky and less likely to return.
The erratic behavior of the president is seen as a risk from a business standpoint.
Imagine you need capital to build a factory plant in the US but it’s unclear if this is going to work out. After the thing with Hyundai, no one is going to greenlight this anymore.
The trust may return after Trump but maybe the next right winger is going to be isolationist too. Was this tariff thing part project 25? It’s so dumb from an econ standpoint, where is this even coming from?
even in the us, GOOD wine is imported from the EU, france, germany, spain,etc, plus things like OLIVES/olive oil is source in the mediterrenean countries and imported to the us, they have the natural climate for those and we dont. except may california sinc its similar.
One of the reasons California has “good” wine is because most of the vineyards in Italy and France were dying from root rot, in an effort to save all of the vines dying they grafted the healthy vines onto roots in California and let them start to grow there. (Edit: turns out it was Missouri). Then we transported some of the healthy roots/grafted vines back to Italy and France, and the California (edit: “American rootstock”) roots were immune from the disease causing the rot. Forever fusing some of their grapes/vines history
Do you have a source for that? I’ve heard about how during the Great French Wine Blight that nearly all French wineries now use grafted root stock since American plants were resistant. But I’ve never read anything about California’s vines being grafted with French or Italian vines and grown in California to make “good” wine.
Ah your article shows most of the rootstock coming from Missouri during that blight. I’ll have to double check and find a source where I remember that from.
Edit: I believe my thoughts were because Vitis Vinifera is often grafted onto Vitis californica rootstock. But it looks like it was mostly mix breeds of Vitis rupestris.
Always fun to see more how random animals/plants nearly destroy and are also supporting systems for each other worldwide at this point.
Mediterranean climates can be found in Europe, Africa, Australia, the Middle East, California and Chile. Americans drink wine mostly produced in America, not imported. The US also grows a lot of olives.