The dems dropped the ball in the 2024 election, by pretending Biden was sharp as a tack and gaslighting us about his mental health until they couldn’t hide it anymore during that disastrous debate, and since they lied about him so long, they replaced him with someone who flopped HARD in 2020 and lost the election in 2024.
I voted for Bernie Sanders in the primaries and watched as the DNC did everything they could to destroy him and install a good little establishment guy like Biden.
When Trump’s a psychopath and the opposition keeps gaslighting us about the mental health of the president so long that they have no choice but to hand pick a replacement because it’s too late for a primary, a lot of people are just going to say “fuck it” and not vote.
They’re still being delusional and refusing to face facts. Hopefully they can learn from this.
Everyone except the DNC acknowledges where they fucked up.
Its the millions of leftist voters who are in a desperate need of self reflection for how they fucked up by boycotting the election.
Millions of marginalized peoples’ loves were at stake with the 2024 election, both domestically and abroad. People who leftists are supposed to care about, advocate for, and pico the best VIABLE option for, which was Kamala.
Boycotting Kamala wasn’t “sticking it to the Dems”. It was deatroying the future and lives of the millions of marginalized people the boycotting left abandoned to fascism.
Its extremely easy for those in pirivelge, be it financial, racial, sex, gender, etc, to look at Kamala by herself and proclaim she was a shitty candidate. She was, objectively.
But 2024 wasn’t about Kamala, it was about millions of people who now have ICE and the military dissapearing them, and canceling elections nation wide in 2026 and on.
We cannot keep pretending everything that’s happening was an unknown. We were warning people about P2025 for over a year, but self righteous egomaniacal leftists either didn’t listen, didn’t believe it, or simply don’t actually give a fuck about the marginalized people now being sent to concentration camps.
Yeah I voted for genocide. However, I voted for less genocide than we got from the right. I didn’t have a choice. I normally vote left, and if I took away my vote, that would mean the balance of US votes would shift right by a vote. This means that by not voting, I’d effectively be voting right. Doesn’t matter what my intentions were, the outcome was a shift towards the right, which would (and did) result in more genocide than if I had voted left. It’s not as bad as flipping my left vote to a right vote, which would effectively shift the balance right by 2 votes, but is still worse than voting for the less of two evils now, and continuing to vote in local elections and other, non-primary elections for much more progressive candidates so that I may someday not have to vote for the lesser of two evils in the future.
I understand that this is just playing the game they want us to play. I do get that. But if enough people were like me and voted for progressive candidates in all elections, even those outside of the primary, there wouldn’t be any game to play, the only available candidates on the left would be progressive. Too many people throw away their votes in smaller elections, which makes the primary election feel not worth it, because the candidate doesn’t line up with what you believe in. No shit, you didn’t vote in smaller elections, so why would someone with your same views end up as a candidate?
I say I voted for genocide because if you are eligible to vote in the US, you voted for genocide as well. Yeah, you can tell yourself that abstaining your vote is not voting for genocide, but unfortunately that’s just not true. All options in the the last US election were voting for genocide. The one choice you did get was what amount of genocide you were voting for, and the option of least genocide last election was voting left.
You can try to justify your action all you like. “If I don’t vote, the Democratic party will have to change if they don’t want to lose next time”, “I didn’t vote, which means I didn’t explicitly sign off on genocide”, etc. I’ve heard them all.
The Democratic party will not change, because the people in charge of it largely agree with what the Republicans are doing. The only way to get meaningful change from the Democratic party is to stack the deck of Presidential candidates with politicians that are wanting meaningful change. The way to do this is to vote in people that want meaningful change from the bottom up. And in the meantime, vote in the lesser of two evils to try and minimize the damage as much as possible before that happens.
Inaction is a form of action, and actions are defined by their outcomes. By not voting, the only meaningful outcome of your action was that more genocide is happening than if you voted left. Whatever other result you think is happening isn’t.
The DNC needed to do a lot better to challenge Trump and they failed miserably. They propped up a guy who could barely form a coherent sentence. If they really, seriously believed Donald Trump was the existential threat to this country that he totally is, they should have been up front about Biden’s mental health in time to hold a real primary.
Kamala Harris didn’t lose because she is a woman of color. She lost because (A) she’s a terrible candidate who can’t answer questions consistently, as also seen when she ran in 2020, and (B) people felt like they were lied to by the Dems so long that they lost faith in the entire political process and didn’t show up to vote. To act like Trump lied and the DNC told the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth is just plain wrong. The truth is, in a democracy, nobody is owed any votes, ever, and you can’t just blame the citizens.
The dems dropped the ball in the 2024 election, by pretending Biden was sharp as a tack and gaslighting us about his mental health until they couldn’t hide it anymore during that disastrous debate, and since they lied about him so long, they replaced him with someone who flopped HARD in 2020 and lost the election in 2024.
I voted for Bernie Sanders in the primaries and watched as the DNC did everything they could to destroy him and install a good little establishment guy like Biden.
When Trump’s a psychopath and the opposition keeps gaslighting us about the mental health of the president so long that they have no choice but to hand pick a replacement because it’s too late for a primary, a lot of people are just going to say “fuck it” and not vote.
They’re still being delusional and refusing to face facts. Hopefully they can learn from this.
I get where the DNC fucked up.
Everyone except the DNC acknowledges where they fucked up.
Its the millions of leftist voters who are in a desperate need of self reflection for how they fucked up by boycotting the election.
Millions of marginalized peoples’ loves were at stake with the 2024 election, both domestically and abroad. People who leftists are supposed to care about, advocate for, and pico the best VIABLE option for, which was Kamala.
Boycotting Kamala wasn’t “sticking it to the Dems”. It was deatroying the future and lives of the millions of marginalized people the boycotting left abandoned to fascism.
Its extremely easy for those in pirivelge, be it financial, racial, sex, gender, etc, to look at Kamala by herself and proclaim she was a shitty candidate. She was, objectively.
But 2024 wasn’t about Kamala, it was about millions of people who now have ICE and the military dissapearing them, and canceling elections nation wide in 2026 and on.
We cannot keep pretending everything that’s happening was an unknown. We were warning people about P2025 for over a year, but self righteous egomaniacal leftists either didn’t listen, didn’t believe it, or simply don’t actually give a fuck about the marginalized people now being sent to concentration camps.
Hi, we didn’t vote for Kamala because she’s a genocidal freak. You’re the one who didn’t care about genocide. Bye. :)
So you enabled the even more genocidal freak to take power.
Congratulations, dumbass.
You voted for genocide.
If you chose not to vote, you voted for even more genocide.
Congratulations, dumbass.
You voted for genocide. I did not.
Yeah I voted for genocide. However, I voted for less genocide than we got from the right. I didn’t have a choice. I normally vote left, and if I took away my vote, that would mean the balance of US votes would shift right by a vote. This means that by not voting, I’d effectively be voting right. Doesn’t matter what my intentions were, the outcome was a shift towards the right, which would (and did) result in more genocide than if I had voted left. It’s not as bad as flipping my left vote to a right vote, which would effectively shift the balance right by 2 votes, but is still worse than voting for the less of two evils now, and continuing to vote in local elections and other, non-primary elections for much more progressive candidates so that I may someday not have to vote for the lesser of two evils in the future.
I understand that this is just playing the game they want us to play. I do get that. But if enough people were like me and voted for progressive candidates in all elections, even those outside of the primary, there wouldn’t be any game to play, the only available candidates on the left would be progressive. Too many people throw away their votes in smaller elections, which makes the primary election feel not worth it, because the candidate doesn’t line up with what you believe in. No shit, you didn’t vote in smaller elections, so why would someone with your same views end up as a candidate?
Is one hell of a fucking way to start a reply. I applaud your honesty at least, even if you’re clueless.
If I’m clueless, by all means educate me.
I say I voted for genocide because if you are eligible to vote in the US, you voted for genocide as well. Yeah, you can tell yourself that abstaining your vote is not voting for genocide, but unfortunately that’s just not true. All options in the the last US election were voting for genocide. The one choice you did get was what amount of genocide you were voting for, and the option of least genocide last election was voting left.
You can try to justify your action all you like. “If I don’t vote, the Democratic party will have to change if they don’t want to lose next time”, “I didn’t vote, which means I didn’t explicitly sign off on genocide”, etc. I’ve heard them all.
The Democratic party will not change, because the people in charge of it largely agree with what the Republicans are doing. The only way to get meaningful change from the Democratic party is to stack the deck of Presidential candidates with politicians that are wanting meaningful change. The way to do this is to vote in people that want meaningful change from the bottom up. And in the meantime, vote in the lesser of two evils to try and minimize the damage as much as possible before that happens.
Inaction is a form of action, and actions are defined by their outcomes. By not voting, the only meaningful outcome of your action was that more genocide is happening than if you voted left. Whatever other result you think is happening isn’t.
Read Reform or Revolution. You’re clueless but you don’t need to stay so.
The DNC needed to do a lot better to challenge Trump and they failed miserably. They propped up a guy who could barely form a coherent sentence. If they really, seriously believed Donald Trump was the existential threat to this country that he totally is, they should have been up front about Biden’s mental health in time to hold a real primary.
Kamala Harris didn’t lose because she is a woman of color. She lost because (A) she’s a terrible candidate who can’t answer questions consistently, as also seen when she ran in 2020, and (B) people felt like they were lied to by the Dems so long that they lost faith in the entire political process and didn’t show up to vote. To act like Trump lied and the DNC told the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth is just plain wrong. The truth is, in a democracy, nobody is owed any votes, ever, and you can’t just blame the citizens.
It’s nice to see my seething rage brought to bear in your comments.