Zelensky should have inquired about NATO guarantees before sending half his country into the meat grinder. The only guarantee NATO gives is a knife in the back. Ask the Kurds about it.
Ukraine didn’t take peace deals throughout the war because they thought the Europeans and Americans had their backs, and would let them into NATO for security in the future.
Now the Ukrainians have lost hundreds of thousands of people, huge tracts of land, and are about to be looted so hard it will make the looting of Russia after the dissolution of the USSR look like a cake walk.
The Ukrainians fought for a lie. Rule no. 1 of geopolitics. NEVER trust the Europeans or Americans. They will always backstab you.
Provide an example of a “Russian bot” in this thread, keen observer. State solid reasons why they are a bot, and why their comments are “blind propaganda against Ukraine”.
I can’t prove any user are bots, though that is my opinion because I can’t comprehend any other reason for their behaviour. And the blind propaganda is all the messages framing Zelensky as the cause of Ukraine’s destruction while willfully ignoring Russia’s huge involvement, or comments trying to imply he is hated by most Ukrainians (despite his approval rating being well over 50%).
To be clear, being critical of Zelensky is not propaganda, but willfully ignoring data and historical events for the sole benefit of Russia is.
Have you considered reading the comment instead of spamming Russian bot?
I do not endorse Putin invading Ukraine. And Putin is an authoritarian dictator.
I simply state that Ukraine was used as a pawn for NATO to weaken Russia. And this was predicted years ago. But anyone saying it was called a Russia bot.
Ukraine was caught between two evils and did not use its own leverage to get guarantees from NATO. Instead it blindly trusted hollow phrases of possible future NATO membership, refused ceasefire deals, and now is left holding the bag.
I did not even reply to you, I replied to another comment which has been since deleted, and was referring to comments across this whole comment section. (Eg: “when his countrymen hang him”, or “this scumbag is responsible for destroying the country”)
Spamming russian bot
You can check my comment history, I am fairly sure that is the first time I have ever referred to a user as a Russian bot. Hardly spamming.
I disagree with your original comment mostly because of the phrasing, because I think it implies that the only reason for Ukraine to be fighting was for NATO membership (as opposed to defending their home from invaders) but your clarification about Ukraine being stuck between two evils I can agree with, or at least find reasonable.
NATO (Stoltenberg) proudly rejected Putin’s offer to avoid the war by refusing to ever admit Ukraine. Was evil war from the start, and was never intended to end well for Ukraine.
Zelensky should have inquired about NATO guarantees before sending half his country into the meat grinder. The only guarantee NATO gives is a knife in the back. Ask the Kurds about it.
So, don’t defend your home from a foreign invader unless you’re allowed into NATO? This doesn’t make any sense.
Ukraine didn’t take peace deals throughout the war because they thought the Europeans and Americans had their backs, and would let them into NATO for security in the future.
Now the Ukrainians have lost hundreds of thousands of people, huge tracts of land, and are about to be looted so hard it will make the looting of Russia after the dissolution of the USSR look like a cake walk.
The Ukrainians fought for a lie. Rule no. 1 of geopolitics. NEVER trust the Europeans or Americans. They will always backstab you.
Ukraine is now destroyed, they are not in NATO. And they have a massive debt to America.
This makes a lot of sense 🤠👍
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Provide an example of a “Russian bot” in this thread, keen observer. State solid reasons why they are a bot, and why their comments are “blind propaganda against Ukraine”.
I can’t prove any user are bots, though that is my opinion because I can’t comprehend any other reason for their behaviour. And the blind propaganda is all the messages framing Zelensky as the cause of Ukraine’s destruction while willfully ignoring Russia’s huge involvement, or comments trying to imply he is hated by most Ukrainians (despite his approval rating being well over 50%).
To be clear, being critical of Zelensky is not propaganda, but willfully ignoring data and historical events for the sole benefit of Russia is.
Have you considered reading the comment instead of spamming Russian bot?
I do not endorse Putin invading Ukraine. And Putin is an authoritarian dictator.
I simply state that Ukraine was used as a pawn for NATO to weaken Russia. And this was predicted years ago. But anyone saying it was called a Russia bot.
Ukraine was caught between two evils and did not use its own leverage to get guarantees from NATO. Instead it blindly trusted hollow phrases of possible future NATO membership, refused ceasefire deals, and now is left holding the bag.
I did not even reply to you, I replied to another comment which has been since deleted, and was referring to comments across this whole comment section. (Eg: “when his countrymen hang him”, or “this scumbag is responsible for destroying the country”)
You can check my comment history, I am fairly sure that is the first time I have ever referred to a user as a Russian bot. Hardly spamming.
I disagree with your original comment mostly because of the phrasing, because I think it implies that the only reason for Ukraine to be fighting was for NATO membership (as opposed to defending their home from invaders) but your clarification about Ukraine being stuck between two evils I can agree with, or at least find reasonable.
Edit: added examples above
NATO (Stoltenberg) proudly rejected Putin’s offer to avoid the war by refusing to ever admit Ukraine. Was evil war from the start, and was never intended to end well for Ukraine.