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Steam UI genuinely fucks, and if you’re suggesting it should be homogenized into the bland, emotionless material design full of dark patterns that every other web experience has turned into… then you, sir, can go to hell
Good design doesn’t have to be bland, and what does this have to do with dark patterns?
IMO the desktop Steam client as well as the gamescope have some pretty confusing UI. Once you get used to it it’s fine but that’s the case for any shitty UI. Except Gamescope, which is buggy to traverse by controller (which is what it was designed for lol)
Sure but bland is often that kind of design often ends up as…
Would it really be better to have as few unique bits as possible? I think that it’s great to be able to tell at a glance what part of Steam you’re on. It’s a program with many features. Then again, you can still use Big Picture Mode if you really want to dumb it down.
This is why they are actually profitable and roll out new features. Because they don’t spend time redesigning old shit every time they have a new design in mind.
I thought it was because they made gambling open to minors and took 30% of all game sales
Last time I said something similar people down voted my comment all the way lol
A lot of people are unconditional fans of Steam and Valve but are pretty uneducated. They’ll defend Valve because they brought a lot of good in the community but will ignore all the negatives.
Valve does a great job on this by not responding to allegations and dramas, so people don’t learn the news.
Sorry it happened! Try again in another community and later. Word it correctly :) - you don’t care about « karma » here. Let’s educate more people :)
Well, I really don’t care about karma. People do weird things to get “internet points” or just avoid something like being critical just so that they have a lot karma. It’s a broken system
What bothers me is what you describe. When it shows that people don’t know or ignore the negative aspects. And even if you tell them, they still don’t change their opinion, but what they do is downvote you.
I still think it’s crazy how much steam takes for their service. Especially if you compare it to other platforms.
I believe it might also be because they like Steam and are used to it, so they don’t want to learn they have a bad side else they won’t know where to go and what to do. Sometimes it’s better not to know 👀
Gambling? Don’t give steam credit for EAs hard work!
CS:GO started it.
Man, looked at my bank statement many years ago and noticed several little charges. A few cents here and a few cents there. The biggest one was maybe .80 cents.
My son had fallen for some scam ran by a YouTuber and was buying and trading skins.
I will say though, now that time has passed, some of those skins are worth insane amounts of money. I’d sell them if I wasn’t so stupid sentimental.
My son got in trouble for doing that, but it still takes me back to a pleasant time when I look at the inventory.
That’s partly because the kids that entered after yours lost a lot of money, and partly because some people gambled a lot, got addicted, and lost a ton of cash.
Oh it wasn’t a small amount by the end of it. He’s a smart boy and he learned right then what that was all about. He won’t even buy a lottery ticket as an adult.
As far as the skins becoming valuable, that is because they are all stat track guns and something changed. I don’t remember what.
When he done that they were worthless.
Nice then, I was just worried about some hijacking of the subject by you saying « yes, but we made money! » :)
Good thing you can get something (more) out of it now then! Yea it’s difficult to sell those, I can relate
Steam has a bad UI, but at least I can actually find what I’m fucking looking for. I like GOG, but holy shit Galaxy is awful. I ended up having to use the website to look for Icewind Dale because the search function doesn’t actually show you results from the store.
It’s not flat out “bad,” but it IS visually inconsistent when it comes to their overall design system element library… but their visual hierarchy, their arrangement of said elements, and layout - is overall pretty well done.
My personal biggest gripe is less about element appearance, but more on how inconsistent their tab layout ends up being from page to page.
When browsing, I always struggle to find a couple of elements - usually something from the specific set of tabs I want to navigate to like the “community” home, my wishlist items, or the shopping cart.
…But really my very biggest gripe is on my Steam Deck. I have the mod for allowing customized animated grid images… and when I go to the Collections section, the loading of those images grinds browsing to a nearly unusable halt.
I would LOVE it if they did overhaul their element library to unify things, and did away with older more bloated raster formats like JPEG, PNG, GIF and H.264+MP3 in MP4s… and instead switch to something like highly optimized HEIC / AVIF / WEBP and SVG, custom fonts with embedded symbols, and VP9+opus WEBMs to modernize and shrink their asset libraries. They could even have fall-back compatibility when they detect an ancient device that can’t decode them for some reason.
Not that anyone cares, but I am a Sr. UX designer who used to work in games but switched to general software like 12 yrs ago… so if anyone from Valve browses Lemmy… PM me. 😅
Wanted to better illustrate my point about asset modernization, here’s an example of what I’m talking about.
This is a 7.45MB animated GIF embedded among several others on the page for Helldivers 2 store page on Steam :
Here’s that same animation converted into an animated WEBP around 800KB… (I did an AVIF at 215KB with default settings from some random online conversion tool, but apparently Lemmy won’t allow those to be embedded / shown directly) :
It is literally ~10% the size, looks nearly identical (could make 1:1 with less compression for just a few KB more), loads faster, and will play back in everything except e-machines from the late 1990s.
Additionally, modern formats support things like wider color gamut - which means you can create HDR assets.
When you have a monopoly you don’t have to try. Add in years of Stockholm syndrome (as you can see with the amount of brainwashed G*mers in the comments) and I’m surprised Steam isn’t in Comic Sans.
and somehow it’s still one of the least shitty feeling megacorp websites
