• Glasgow@lemmy.ml
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    3 months ago

    Her pitch was pretty clear and she gave concrete policies all the time this was just a narrative pushed by MAGA

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      3 months ago

      No, I know she gave concrete policies, I watched the debate. What I mean is that

      1. The policies weren’t much to write home about

      2. I’m asking about the elevator pitch. Give me the campaign message in one sentence.

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        3 months ago

        Continuing the good things Biden had done (chips act, student debt cancellation, etc), while protecting reproductive rights, at least pretending to treat minorities like humans, while being the only rational option that had a chance.

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          My life has gotten markedly worse since biden and so has that of all my coworkers. More of the same “nothing will fundamentally change” Biden except as a first black Indian woman president!!! is simply not appealing and it has nothing to do with identity politics. This economy is destroying the working class. My entire department coworkers voted for trump, almost all of them for the first time. It’s vermont. They’re pro women, pro lgbtq, don’t care about race. But Biden’s economic policies did not help them at all. All of the twice obama thrice trump voters? Same fucking thing. But that doesn’t fit the neat little identity politics narrative conveniently invented to keep people from talking about class issues and gaining class consciousness. You see, the working class greatly surpasses the ruling class in size and we’re heavily armed. Don’t want the working class getting any ideas so best to invent or manipulate identity issues to keep it divided.

          If only you’d talk to people instead of parroting liberal MSM talking points that remind me of bush claiming Islamic terrorism was because they hate us! And not you know, the product of decades of US intervention in the Middle East especially the support of Israel’s bullshit.

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            3 months ago

            But objectively Bidens policies were better for them. This is the problem with voting on feels and not data. Unless they voted for Trump to burn the system down in hopes that’d improve things, they voted for their situations to worsen. As well as the situation of those vulnerable groups they ‘care’ about.

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      3 months ago

      What was she clear about again ? Her overwhelming support for the Genocide of Gaza ? Yes

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        3 months ago

        Off the top of my head

        • Being the objectively better option on Gaza. Actually responded like a human and cared about public pressure here saying things like “International humanitarian law must be respected” and advocated for a 2-state solution vs Trumps ‘We’re gonna tell them do whatever they want to get the job done’ (greater israel incoming)
        • Said she would pass a middle class tax cut that will benefit 100m+ Americans
        • $25k for first-time homebuyers
        • Maintain/increase the surging Economy
        • Give women reproductive freedom.
        • Continue to move towards universal single payer healthcare.
        • Continue the advancements in non fossil fuel energy development.
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          3 months ago

          better option on Gaza

          DOUBT!

          Said she would pass a middle class tax cut that will benefit 100m+ Americans

          Yeah right, why wasn’t it done already then?

          $25k for first-time homebuyers

          Big whoop, homes will increase 25k in price.

          Maintain/increase the surging Economy

          Surging economy for whom?! the liberal elites? Yeah ok.

          Give women reproductive freedom.

          And the democrats had FIFTY FUCKING YEARS to codify roe v Wade but cynically fundraised off it instead. YEAH RIGHT. That’s total bullshit. If she was serious why didn’t it happen under biden and why would it magically happen under her? No, nothing would change. Just more fundraising, this dumbass spent a billion to lose an election because nobody fucking believes a word out of democrat mouths anymore for good fucking reason! Like an abusive romantic relationship where the partner constantly promises change and never delivers and then gaslights you over it. And you wonder why they’re breaking up!

          Continue to move towards universal single payer healthcare.

          Bullshit and empty promises. Democrat senator from Connecticut joe Lieberman single-handedly killed Obamacare’s public option after being bribed by the insurance companies that are headquartered in his state. He’s dead but there’s always a democrat patsy to protect the capitalists they actually represent. Sinema, Manchin, the unheard of senate parliamentarian when it came to raising the federal minimum wage. There’s always somebody democrat aligned to protect corporate donors interests and block any kind of meaningful reform.

          Continue the advancements in non fossil fuel energy development.

          Too little too late. See the LA wildfires for an example. We’re already cooked. The time to act was decades ago but did the democrats do anything meaningful? NO! They protected their corporate donors and the capitalist class as they always do. Schadenfreude watching the houses of the extreme wealthy burn!

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            3 months ago

            The argument wasn’t whether or not people believed her. It was on whether or not they knew what the policies were.

            But to deny she was the better option for Gaza is just delusion.