And so Isreal has the right to respond to attacks. It’s pretty horrible how they’re doing it and I sure wish they’d take the moral high road instead of going to the gutter like they are. Of course, their adversaries would do worse if they could. Doesn’t excuse it in my books, but I can see where they’re coming from.
You speak as though there are two people groups on equal footing doing atrocities here. As if both sides have done the same level of destruction and murder… That’s the crazy part in my opinion.
It would be as if a 6 year old went and punched a bodybuilder, and the bodybuilder went on to curb stomp and break multiple bones in the child’s body, and then people defended his retaliation.
No. Israel is clearly doing a lot more atrocities now. But taken in the context of the last 80+ years, it’s no 6yo punching a body builder situation. Israel has seemingly had the military advantage since its inception, but it has not been immune to great harm. The Oct attacks proved that it was still very vulnerable against an enemy who will always seek Israel’s destruction. Israel’s strategy now is abhorrent but there is context that makes it militarily logical, even if morally bankrupt.
If a teenager cuts in front of me in line at the movies, that doesn’t mean I have the right to burn down the entire movie theatre with a molotov cocktail.
What if it’s your neighbour firing random gun shots at your house for months or years, putting you and your family at risk of great injury or death? You have a rocket launcher - do you use it to eradicate your neighbour and keep your family safe? Or is that unjustified escalation and you’d just take random pot shots back?
Well if the entire state of Israel were me, then Hamas would be a 14 year old who listens to Kanye. Edgy and annoying, but not dangerous. There’s no way Hamas can actually destroy Israel.
Also Israel told the troops at the border to stand down and let October 7th happen.
Doesn’t work like that. If people were taking pot shots at your family, you wouldn’t stand for it even if your whole country wasn’t at risk.
And you assertion that Isreal let the Oct attacks happen on purpose is unlikely to be true at best, and more like ridiculous conspiracy conjecture.
Yes that’s interesting. So who gave the order - there must be some kind of record. Or was is a mole, or Hamas making a fake call? Or were the soldiers making up an excuse as they had been lazy? Surely such an accusation should be followed up on as much as possible, but all we get is that one little bit of ‘testimony’ in a clearly biased article that blurs named sources with unsubstantiated ‘reports’.
It might be true for all I know, but it seems very unlikely. If true, it’s very important to know where such an order came from. The people of Israel aren’t stupid - they wouldn’t stand for an intentional lapse in security. So what’s the real story? - why would such a huge accusation be a minor footnote?
I’m supportive of attacks on Israel too. They’ve got nukes, we need to disable those.
And so Isreal has the right to respond to attacks. It’s pretty horrible how they’re doing it and I sure wish they’d take the moral high road instead of going to the gutter like they are. Of course, their adversaries would do worse if they could. Doesn’t excuse it in my books, but I can see where they’re coming from.
You speak as though there are two people groups on equal footing doing atrocities here. As if both sides have done the same level of destruction and murder… That’s the crazy part in my opinion.
It would be as if a 6 year old went and punched a bodybuilder, and the bodybuilder went on to curb stomp and break multiple bones in the child’s body, and then people defended his retaliation.
No. Israel is clearly doing a lot more atrocities now. But taken in the context of the last 80+ years, it’s no 6yo punching a body builder situation. Israel has seemingly had the military advantage since its inception, but it has not been immune to great harm. The Oct attacks proved that it was still very vulnerable against an enemy who will always seek Israel’s destruction. Israel’s strategy now is abhorrent but there is context that makes it militarily logical, even if morally bankrupt.
If a teenager cuts in front of me in line at the movies, that doesn’t mean I have the right to burn down the entire movie theatre with a molotov cocktail.
No matter how fun it would be
What if it’s your neighbour firing random gun shots at your house for months or years, putting you and your family at risk of great injury or death? You have a rocket launcher - do you use it to eradicate your neighbour and keep your family safe? Or is that unjustified escalation and you’d just take random pot shots back?
Well if the entire state of Israel were me, then Hamas would be a 14 year old who listens to Kanye. Edgy and annoying, but not dangerous. There’s no way Hamas can actually destroy Israel.
Also Israel told the troops at the border to stand down and let October 7th happen.
Doesn’t work like that. If people were taking pot shots at your family, you wouldn’t stand for it even if your whole country wasn’t at risk.
And you assertion that Isreal let the Oct attacks happen on purpose is unlikely to be true at best, and more like ridiculous conspiracy conjecture.
https://kayhan.ir/en/news/142078/soldier-unveils-hidden-commands-leading-to-gaza-invasion
Yes that’s interesting. So who gave the order - there must be some kind of record. Or was is a mole, or Hamas making a fake call? Or were the soldiers making up an excuse as they had been lazy? Surely such an accusation should be followed up on as much as possible, but all we get is that one little bit of ‘testimony’ in a clearly biased article that blurs named sources with unsubstantiated ‘reports’.
It might be true for all I know, but it seems very unlikely. If true, it’s very important to know where such an order came from. The people of Israel aren’t stupid - they wouldn’t stand for an intentional lapse in security. So what’s the real story? - why would such a huge accusation be a minor footnote?
If they’re not stupid then how come Netanyahu is prime minister? The way I see it, the Israelis and the Americans are about equal
Israel has exactly as much right to defend themselves as Nazi Germany did