I would just like to state that most Americans have no idea what the difference between a liberal and leftist is. When you say you’re a liberal, they think you’re a leftist. When you say you’re a leftist, they think you’re a leftist. The conflation will always be there, given the history of the US and decades of the usage of the conflation in everyday American language.
Edit Addendum: it doesn’t help that liberals/democratic establishment are somewhat more “”“”“”“”““left””“”“”“”“” of the conservatives/Republicans, which is why liberals are grouped with the “left” in the US. It also doesn’t help that the “left”, who would be more accurately known as that grouping of socialists, communists, anarchists, and every other small or large anti-capitalist and or progressive political identity group, just call themselves “the left” or “leftist”, playing into the idea that one’s politics can be quickly understood by pointing to the linear spectrum of “right” and “left”, as if these broad and false dichotomies fit reality to a tee or some shit.
Our goal is not to change the system from within. Feel free to engage with DSA candidates and politics, I do too sometimes but I also understand that their influence is limited in scope and I should engage with revolutionary politics as well.
Ok cool, as long as you’re aware. I’m definitely in favor of revolution; but Mr Singham is a bit too pro-Beijing for me. I’d rather not swap one kind of authoritarian for another
Bernie lost because millions more people voted for the other candidates in 2016. The fact that he was even allowed to run on the DNC ticket despite his third party status is truly the opposite of fucking.
We already discussed this in another thread. The 2020 race was decided by Obama/DNC forcing multiple candidates to drop out. After Super Tuesday the chances were slim for Bernie to have any chance at winning and there was no point in voters coming out for the remaining primaries.
If that were true they could be reaping the benefits of supporting the Trump Admin directly, like Walczak and Tim Cook have.
The fact of the matter is that the billionaires aren’t a united front, either, because some of them are smart enough to realize their fortunes mean jack fucking shit in the face of a dictator who can take whatever he wants.
If we had enough DNC to impeach then he would be impeached, if we had enough to remove then he would be removed. We’re in this situation to begin with because the GOP have all three chambers and the SCOTUS. None of this shit would be happening otherwise.
GOP got there because the DNC has failed to embrace progressive policies. If the mainstream dems fought for single payer healthcare we’d have a blue majority for 60 years. The fucking bought and paid for corporate shills did this to America. THATS what I mean by complicit!! They’ve shit all over every idea that would actually make life better for working people in favor of the table scraps of billionaires and the GOP filled the void with their mindless nationalism!
Republicans are the Fascist Party, Democrats are the Conservative Party; Dem Soc are the moderate party. We don’t have a left party in the US.
I would just like to state that most Americans have no idea what the difference between a liberal and leftist is. When you say you’re a liberal, they think you’re a leftist. When you say you’re a leftist, they think you’re a leftist. The conflation will always be there, given the history of the US and decades of the usage of the conflation in everyday American language.
Edit Addendum: it doesn’t help that liberals/democratic establishment are somewhat more “”“”“”“”““left””“”“”“”“” of the conservatives/Republicans, which is why liberals are grouped with the “left” in the US. It also doesn’t help that the “left”, who would be more accurately known as that grouping of socialists, communists, anarchists, and every other small or large anti-capitalist and or progressive political identity group, just call themselves “the left” or “leftist”, playing into the idea that one’s politics can be quickly understood by pointing to the linear spectrum of “right” and “left”, as if these broad and false dichotomies fit reality to a tee or some shit.
You don’t have to have a party for an ideology to exist.
It’s a good thing that that’s not what they said, then.
True, but it’s hard to get elected to office without a party
an ideology doesn’t need to get elected to office to exist.
(Especially ideologies who see the state as illegitimate, say anarchism)
PSL exists belive it or not
Only party I support at this point.
They have yet to field a successful candidate for public office; imma stick to the dem socialists for now
Our goal is not to change the system from within. Feel free to engage with DSA candidates and politics, I do too sometimes but I also understand that their influence is limited in scope and I should engage with revolutionary politics as well.
Chinese funded militants? Hard fucking pass, China’s everything wrong with the USA and then some.
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Blinding yourself to the opinions of those who disagree with you is a great way to learn and grow 👍
Why don’t you go learn and grow on an infinite AI Slop feed. After all, no information can be detrimental, right?
Your favorite flavor of boot is red, no thanks.
Only when it steps on the throats of the bourgeois ❤️
Do you know where the funding for PSL cones from?
Me, my comrades, and Neville Singham who I am relatively cool with. Class traitors of that variety are too uncommon
Ok cool, as long as you’re aware. I’m definitely in favor of revolution; but Mr Singham is a bit too pro-Beijing for me. I’d rather not swap one kind of authoritarian for another
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Left is Progressive. DNC create progress everytime we put them in, even without having more than 50 senate seats in over a decade. DNC are your dudes.
No, they’re REALLY not. Haven’t been since they fucked Bernie in 2016
The DNC is complicit in the fascist takeover of the US
Bernie lost because millions more people voted for the other candidates in 2016. The fact that he was even allowed to run on the DNC ticket despite his third party status is truly the opposite of fucking.
We already discussed this in another thread. The 2020 race was decided by Obama/DNC forcing multiple candidates to drop out. After Super Tuesday the chances were slim for Bernie to have any chance at winning and there was no point in voters coming out for the remaining primaries.
Stop spreading bullshit.
I remember that thread, you owned yourself by linking to an article which disagreed with you.
Only it didn’t. Have you worked on your reading skills?
What about the complicity in the Fascist takeover of our Government? The billionaires that back the DNC would LOVE to try out fascism
If that were true they could be reaping the benefits of supporting the Trump Admin directly, like Walczak and Tim Cook have.
The fact of the matter is that the billionaires aren’t a united front, either, because some of them are smart enough to realize their fortunes mean jack fucking shit in the face of a dictator who can take whatever he wants.
If we had enough DNC to impeach then he would be impeached, if we had enough to remove then he would be removed. We’re in this situation to begin with because the GOP have all three chambers and the SCOTUS. None of this shit would be happening otherwise.
GOP got there because the DNC has failed to embrace progressive policies. If the mainstream dems fought for single payer healthcare we’d have a blue majority for 60 years. The fucking bought and paid for corporate shills did this to America. THATS what I mean by complicit!! They’ve shit all over every idea that would actually make life better for working people in favor of the table scraps of billionaires and the GOP filled the void with their mindless nationalism!
And yet somehow none of this happened under the DNC? You make zero sense.
And you don’t know how to read apparently