• Captain Poofter@lemmy.world
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    23 hours ago

    i see this posted a lot. so why don’t you go do it yourself? i know why: because you KNOW that taking up arms and attacking ICE will make Trump send his army at you to kill you, and all this will accomplish is make you a martyr they can use in propaganda OR ignite a full on civil war. i am tired of seeing this post. stop encouraging people to do things that YOU YOURSELF find unreasonable to do. and if you find it reasonable, than put up and shut up and stop fucking posting about it to look cool. we’ll see you on the news.

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      10 hours ago

      How do you know people posting that aren’t doing it? It already is ignited, it’s at a low burn, only because people aren’t fighting back en masse yet, but in some places there is resistance going on. I agree though, “don’t speak about it, be about it”.

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      23 hours ago

      ignite a full on civil war

      It’s already a civil war.

      Don’t mistake me I basically agree with everything your saying, but make no mistake we are Germany in the '30s, whatever you are doing is what you would have done then.

      We’re all on the internet talking tough about it while the camps are being built…

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        22 hours ago

        I bought a gun, I bought ammo, I have encouraged friends to do the same and taken them out to learn how to use a firearm, as many of them had never done so before. We are organizing, we are preparing, we are waiting for the moment the first shot is fired to rise.

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        18 hours ago

        we constantly ignore atrocities as a species. it is not new. it is not every persons responsibility to play morality police and risk their lives to defend other people. people were not evil just because they DIDN’T fight the nazis. fighting FOR the nazis? yes. but condemning people for not fighting is fucking asinine and not something ANY person is obligated to do and I’m tired of people acting like it is

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      22 hours ago

      I went out, got a permit to purchase, and bought a gun plus ammo shortly after Trump was elected. I have been prompting friends and others to do the same, organizing who I can to the cause. I am no fool, one man with a gun can’t solve this, nor do I believe myself to be some great revolutionary leader who will lead the nation into the future. So, instead, I promote the cause, I continue to try to organize and prepare for the eventual war that is to come, and remind people like You that You have done nothing and continue to do nothing. You can change that, the revolution does not only need fighters, but those willing to spread the message of rebellion, and those willing to do what they can to support the cause. Stand with us, or stand aside.

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        18 hours ago

        having fun fellating yourself on top of your high horse on the Internet? sorry, but it is not every persons responsibility to play morality police and risk their lives to defend other people. condemning people for not fighting is fucking asinine and not something ANY person is obligated to do and I’m tired of people acting like it is

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          It’s not anyones responsibility to risk their lives, I wouldn’t blame anyone for not standing up against the Nazis in 1938 Germany, but in light of what we know, it’s becoming more and more impossible to maintain a clear conscience without fighting back.

          I don’t see it as ‘condemning’ someone for not doing more, just a belief that anyone capable should do more and they will likely feel regret if they don’t.

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          18 hours ago

          Nah, we are, we are. We can just be too cowardly to do it (God knows I would be if I were in the same position). And lying about it, even if you’ve also lied to yourself, is a bit shameful.

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          22 hours ago

          Step 2 is organizing, spreading the word of revolution. We are in the “pamphlet” phase if you will, when it is most important to spread the word of the revolution, to gather support and to encourage others to form their own militias and organize with their communities. To jump straight to violence when you have no one to support you is merely suicide, plans must be made, supporters brought in, and then the match can be lit.