• Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    16 hours ago

    We need to be thinking about how 77 million Americans voted for Trump and thought that was a good idea.

    And we need to work out how to prevent it from happening again.

    One thing is clear, billionaires and politicians are unwilling to relinquish power or wealth, even when their holdings are obscene or they are incapable of governing.

    We will have to threaten either their lives or the structures on which their holdings depend, and can’t bluff. And they will likely choose death over surrender.

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      10 hours ago

      We won’t prevent it until people learn to start talking to each other with compassion instead of hostility. As it stands, both sides think the other side is completely insane, and to some extent violent, and that they should not be associated with unless you are harassing them.

      We’ve already burned the whole bridge down, and now need to rebuild it somehow. If republicans and democrats were separated geographically they might just split the country in two, but as it stands nearly every state has a large population of both, so in my opinion the only way forward is reconciliation.

      • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
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        We won’t prevent it until people learn to start talking to each other with compassion instead of hostility.

        You can’t empathize with literal fascist… For two parties to reach common ground there has to be an assumption of both parties bargaining in good faith. If you continue to do that with fascist, people end up in camps.

        As it stands, both sides think the other side is completely insane, and to some extent violent, and that they should not be associated with unless you are harassing them.

        Well… In the last 30 years, how many mass casualties events have been perpetrated by liberal or leftist extremist? You can’t falsely conflate “both sides” when only one has a well recorded history of violence.

        There is no common ground when the side you want people to compromise with wants to put me and my family in a prison camp.

        We’ve already burned the whole bridge down, and now need to rebuild it somehow. If republicans and democrats were separated geographically they might just split the country in two, but as it stands nearly every state has a large population of both, so in my opinion the only way forward is reconciliation.

        Conservatism isn’t an ethnicity… It’s a dangerous ideology that should have been stamped out during reconstruction after the last civil war. But people like you had the great idea of compromising reconstruction with reconciliation, so now we have to stomp it to death once again.

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        9 hours ago

        I’m ex republican. Higher education and having my life ripped apart by our state’s AG fixed me… barely. Compassion won’t fix these people. They fucking suck to their core and would rather die than change their opinions. I don’t have a good solution. Platforming the stupid in our country is a large part of the problem.

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          6 hours ago

          I guess you make a good point that dire situations often change minds. That might be the more likely thing to happen than people having conversations again, unfortunately.

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            5 hours ago

            It’s such a hard topic to discuss because everyone has varying exposure to how much ground empathy can gain. After living it, I can say that they are more lost than most people think.

            So start treating them the way they will treat you. Personally I’ll leave someone to die if they have a Trump sticker/flag/hat/etc, because they would do the same to me.