Yep that’s definitely helped Americans get Universal Health Care, reduce poverty, increase purchasing power, make housing work accessible, and meaningfully lower the number of homeless in the United States.
Oh wait it didn’t do any of those things. It made rich people richer while holding lip service for the climate conscious people
Yep the kids currently going hungry will absolutely appreciate the solar panels that power the government buildings that they can’t use.
And I’m sure the homeless is going really appreciative that their electric bill isn’t going to go up because we switched to “Green energy”.
Oh and I forgot how much green energy helps bring housing prices down and helps keep rent stabilized.
Nah I’m realistic. I know what the Democrats will and won’t do and they’re not going to do shit to help us.
They couldn’t even give us gay marriage, that had to come from the Supreme Court. In fact all major breakthroughs since probably the Civil Rights Act have come from the Supreme Court. Don’t even try and hold the ACA up is something that really helped people or do we need to talk about the major tax penalties they added that disproportionately affected people in poverty and really hurt a lot of people?
Remind me again why I should fight for a party that won’t do shit for me? Why should I fight for a party that’s currently rolled over on its back for the Trump Administration? 128 Democrats in the house voted to table an impeachment against Trump. And you guys think that those same politicians if given the power will impeach Donald Trump? Ha.
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Just down votes because this argument is objectively correct and no one has good counterpoints.
I am under no illusions that even if and it’s a big if the Democrats managed to take back enough seats in both the house and the Senate to actually impeach and prosecute Trump that they still won’t do it that they will be spineless and that they will offer supposed Olive branches across the aisle.
We had one guy win a primary in a mayoral race. You guys are acting as if this changes everything. It’s interesting to watch for sure and there are lessons to be learned but that does not mean that everything is changing. It’s not even guaranteed he’ll win the Mayoral race. The DNC is even considering not giving him the nomination despite him winning.
The billionaire class is already mobilizing to try and ensure this guy never gets elected. Do you think they’re going to make it any easier when he’s in office?
By all means we should engage in electoral politics but we should not be under any illusions that it will fix the system we have nor should we be under any illusion that our politicians will save us from the problem that is Donald Trump. If anything the Democrats seem more than happy to capitulate to what he wants since they’re not in the majority.
Correct, so show up. We need to vote, and we need to protest.
Head is so deep in the sand. Keep coping bud.
I really really don’t think that will change anything. People been trying to change the democrats for the better part of ten years.
Name one landmark foundational thing they have done in the last ten years thats really benefited the majority of Americans.
There isn’t one that isn’t a major concession that undercuts the original proposal.
Billions for renewable energy buildouts?
Yep that’s definitely helped Americans get Universal Health Care, reduce poverty, increase purchasing power, make housing work accessible, and meaningfully lower the number of homeless in the United States.
Oh wait it didn’t do any of those things. It made rich people richer while holding lip service for the climate conscious people
Jesus fucking christ dude. You don’t see how big investment in renewable energy helps everyone?
Yep the kids currently going hungry will absolutely appreciate the solar panels that power the government buildings that they can’t use.
And I’m sure the homeless is going really appreciative that their electric bill isn’t going to go up because we switched to “Green energy”.
Oh and I forgot how much green energy helps bring housing prices down and helps keep rent stabilized.
Nah I’m realistic. I know what the Democrats will and won’t do and they’re not going to do shit to help us.
They couldn’t even give us gay marriage, that had to come from the Supreme Court. In fact all major breakthroughs since probably the Civil Rights Act have come from the Supreme Court. Don’t even try and hold the ACA up is something that really helped people or do we need to talk about the major tax penalties they added that disproportionately affected people in poverty and really hurt a lot of people?
Remind me again why I should fight for a party that won’t do shit for me? Why should I fight for a party that’s currently rolled over on its back for the Trump Administration? 128 Democrats in the house voted to table an impeachment against Trump. And you guys think that those same politicians if given the power will impeach Donald Trump? Ha.
Edit:
Just down votes because this argument is objectively correct and no one has good counterpoints.
lol at only 10 years
I’m sure it’s been longer but I can absolutely defend that they’ve been trying to change the party from the inside since at least Obama got elected.
You’re right and part of that is people like you not showing up. None voting has had the most votes in all those elections.
maybe because thre is no one worth voting for in USA?
And if we don’t work to grow our progressive movement then there really never will be.
I am under no illusions that even if and it’s a big if the Democrats managed to take back enough seats in both the house and the Senate to actually impeach and prosecute Trump that they still won’t do it that they will be spineless and that they will offer supposed Olive branches across the aisle.
We had one guy win a primary in a mayoral race. You guys are acting as if this changes everything. It’s interesting to watch for sure and there are lessons to be learned but that does not mean that everything is changing. It’s not even guaranteed he’ll win the Mayoral race. The DNC is even considering not giving him the nomination despite him winning.
The billionaire class is already mobilizing to try and ensure this guy never gets elected. Do you think they’re going to make it any easier when he’s in office?
By all means we should engage in electoral politics but we should not be under any illusions that it will fix the system we have nor should we be under any illusion that our politicians will save us from the problem that is Donald Trump. If anything the Democrats seem more than happy to capitulate to what he wants since they’re not in the majority.
No, but your writing is that we should give up prematurely. That is why we also need to protest.
No my writing is encouraging people not to put all of their eggs in one basket.
We need to engage in different forms of politics other than electoralism.
If all you’re doing is voting it is not enough to save the country
And my comments reflect that.