• nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
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    @Railcar8095 With respect to vaccines and autism, there is a correlation but as the old saying goes casuality is not causality until it is. In my view it warrants research. And I’ve got no doubt that the number of vaccines they are giving toddlers and children these days is overloading their immune systems.

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      Autist here who loves to read research about autism.

      There is absolutely no correlation between autism and vaccines. Neurodivergence cannot be caused by immune system problems.

      People are born autistic with a brain programmed by their DNA to form alternative neurological connections compared to neurotypicals. A neurotypical cannot be turned/mutated into being autistic and vice versa.

      The only correlation that exists is that people who are neurodivergent are prone to develop some unhealthy habits (from extra stress, sleep schedules, and being a picky eater etc) which in turn can lower your immune system.

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          Feels weird that i have to explain this, but not all Research is funded by big pharma.

          The majority of research on autism is not about Vaccins either but about understanding the many properties from which it emerges.

          By understanding what autism actually is, which is often studied by autistic researchers who are motivated to understand themselves better it becomes self evident that we are far from reaching a technological point where we can create a drug to cause or even simulate the complex nature of it.

          You could just aswell claim that vaccins cause people to shapeshift into cats, if you understand the subject matter thats just as non-realistic

          If you want to bash vaccines you could state that an experimental accidental wrong mixed variant could cause death. Which would still be an incredibly unlikely freak accident but at least reality allows the technical possibility for such a mistake.

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            @webghost0101 Here are the facts. 100 years ago, Autism rate is 1-in-40000, today it is 1-in-16. The increase in autism has paralleled the increase in vaccines. And the autism rates parallels the vaccination rates in various regions. As I previously stated, this is a casual not a causal relationship, but given the seriousness of the disease and how many it is affecting, it is worth researching the relationship. Only people who could possibly be opposed to that are those whose profits are threatened.

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              Thats a cute observation but real facts are the following:

              • Autism was only formally recognized in the 1940s - there’s no reliable data before that, though historical evidence suggests autistic people have always existed. For decades, people deemed “mentally ill” were institutionalized and hidden from society.

              • The majority of autistic people can mask their traits and present as neurotypical - they had strong incentives to do so given the historical stigma.

              • Diagnosis happens more frequently in areas with accessible healthcare, which naturally are also areas with higher vaccination rates.

              • We now have better diagnostic tools and a less punitive society for people with neurological differences. The diagnostic criteria have expanded significantly - many people (especially women) who wouldn’t have qualified under older definitions now do.

              And if we want to include the more modern research done by the autistic community we learn that autism is a part of a bigger phenomenon called neurodivergence which includes adhd and many others. Who also used to be completely excluded by the dogmatic labeling of neurotypicals.

              Also you referring to autism as a serious disease shows how little you actually know about it. Just like anyone else neurodivergent people can have psychological disabilities but because they are neurodivergent those disabilities are often different from neurotypical ones. In ““high functioning”” autism disabilities are subjective in context of living in a neurotypical world and are increasingly less disabling with social acceptance and understanding.

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                  My 15+ years of research on the topic is solid tyvm.

                  My understanding of both biochemistry, psychology and autism itself is also advanced enough to form an educational opinion on any research i read.

                  The facts i give you can easily be verified and have absolutely nothing to do with big pharma.

                  I have to question your ability to perform research because it seems to be “Everything that disagrees with my initial belief is conspiracy”

                  I am very anti big pharma btw, some of the drugs they give neurodivergent kids are incredibly dangerous. They simply dont have annything to do with causing autism.

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      I would mock you, but nothing I saw would make you look more foolish than your own words.

      Please go back to Twitter.