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Honestly, I think the idea pretty much explains itself lol.

Also, I don’t have time today for an in depth back and forth as I usually would. I threw a little bomb in there about the Ohio shooting if anyone wants to get it going but I may not be able to be too much of a part of it.

Also: If you didn’t hate this idea already and want to tell me I’m a pain in the ass, check this out: The whole reason behind this community is that I made a little LLM tool that can take a look at a discussion and call out bad faith in the argumentation. I’m actually pleased with how it is working in testing. But… it’s weird to have it inject itself into disagreements without both participants wanting that to happen. It’s like calling up your mom to tell someone you’re arguing with that you are right and they need to agree with you. So, to put it into action I would like at some point to enable it in some way within this specific debate community. But I’m really not sure what that even should look like. I think probably the way to go about it is to have the community and the human participation come first, and then only after that, consult with the people there about progressing it to some kind of input from it, or moderation that is more “argue in good faith pls” and less “don’t use any racism otherwise any horrendous distortion of reality is fine” as in most communities.

Edit: Someone raised I think a pretty valid point about it being offensive to have people’s comments fed into an AI thing. I think consider the AI bot on hold until I can address those concerns.

Anyway, feel free to subscribe, go nuts, feel free to tell me why I am literally a sealion. Peace.

  • Jack@slrpnk.net
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    AI tool sounds cool, but if that is the main purpose of the community please specify it in the community info. A lot of people including me will not be on board to train a AI tool.

    A debate community on its own sounds quite fun though.

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      Ooh… that’s a good point. Any discussion which gets fed into the debate bot will get fed into OpenAI’s API, which means it’ll be used for training. (I trust their “do not use this data” checkbox not at all.) And I think you’re right that having that happen will be a deal-breaker for most people and just a totally different thing than the purpose of the community as stated.

      Let me think on that a little more. I won’t do anything with the tool until I can look into self-hosting it or something. I think consider it as purely a human community until further discussion, then.

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        Thank you, if you make the tool open source in any way I would love to check it out.

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          Yeah, I’d be happy to post it up along with some of the other little tools I use here, that’s a good idea.