… what on earth is this trying to say?
I don’t know, progressive accomplishments?
Wow that’s so impressive.
But you realize MAGA still won right?
Becauae every worthless inbred redneck will vote every single time, even against their own interests.
But here’s the thing: they’re still getting what they want in the end, pure and unadulterated racism unrestrained by law or remorse.
That is the power of always voting, McCain and Romney taught them that every one of them has to vote every time, which is how even Trump got elected.
Inb4 spoiled children start whining.
Progressive accomplishments is what the meme is showing. What is it trying to say by showing them?
I thought it meant one thing and the person who wrote it thought it meant another so I guess it’s open to interpretation.
Who made this and thought “yeah this is readable. Definitely keep all caps and the font that nearly every character just looks like a block”
I swear the internet hates dyslexic people.
Here’s the comment that OP got it from; should be more readable. You can also read the rest of the exchange to see how much of an ass OP made of themselves if you like.
I’ve got to add; anyone engaging Satan’smaggotycumfart in a serious discussion is in for a bad time. They are a deeply unserious person. Catch them in a meme or comedy instance and they are totally fine though.
Wait. OP posted this as an “own”. Wow. OP is delusional.
You really think this makes progressives look bad? Why has your entire output on this platform become shitting on progressives for not doing enough when they are the ones doing the most?.
I suppose I should thank you for giving my comment more reach, it seems that more people need to hear this.
Edit: Adding another comment I made to address the point you seem to be clumsily making with this post:
The reason MAGA was able to take over the GOP so easily while the progressives have struggled to take over the DNC is because MAGA had (and still has) the backing of several large donors and owners of mainstream media. The entire mainstream media apparatus has been outright hostile to progressives until very recently, and even now they are reluctant to give full support.
The fact is that Progressives have a much harder fight than fascists because our ideas represent a tangible threat to the wealth and privilege of those in power while fascists’ ideas only threaten the powerless (at least at first, many of these wealthy people who are complicit in the rise of fascism will find themselves against the wall too eventually, but they are shortsighted).
MAGA took over the entire government so remind me how the progressives are doing the most, please?
Holy shit it’s like talking to a brick wall. Is it not possible in your mind for someone to be doing more and achieving less? You want to maybe respond to the points I made about how progressives have to do everything without media or financial support while MAGA has had the backing of extremely wealthy people?
Beyond that, progressives don’t just lack support from wealthy donors, the wealthy actively oppose everything we do and even regularly smear us in the media. If you’re such a smart guy and know what we should be doing, why aren’t you doing it? I promise you progressives are open to new ideas, we’re trying everything and then some.
If someone is doing more and achieving less that just proves they suck at what they are doing.
Or what they’re trying to do is way harder than what others are trying to do. Again, you continue to criticize progressives for not achieving enough while offering no solutions. Tell me, what do you think progressives should be doing instead?
Oh no I’m sorry you’re right.
They should keep on arguing amongst themselves about who is ideologically pure enough for them to support because that’s obviously working well.
So you think that progressives should be supporting neoliberals because they are the lesser evil, like how Bernie endorsed Biden and Harris? Funny how that worked out.
Oh, I suppose you mean progressive voters. Hold on just a sec, I’ll go turn on my mind control machine that I conveniently have in my basement. Can’t believe I didn’t think to use it to make people vote for Harris, doh!
Jokes aside, if you want people to vote for a candidate that candidate actually has to give the people something to vote for, not just something to vote against. The progressives have that and the neoliberals don’t. Unfortunately the neoliberals have something that progressives don’t, corporate PAC money and mainstream media support.
I did vote for the lesser evil BTW, for all the good it did me. I stand by my vote but I know that most people are less informed and engaged than I am, so the lesser evil argument just doesn’t work on them. You can spend all your energy being angry and bitter about that or you can do something about it, your choice.
The progressives don’t have a party or a candidate because they have the organizational skills of twitch plays Pokémon.
Do you know HOW MAGA took over the Republican party? They went out and did rallies. They campaigned in working class areas. They did town halls. They went on podcasts. They used social media. And most importantly, they ran primary challenges against Republican incumbents who didn’t get in line with their messaging.
So, what are progressives doing? They’re doing exactly what MAGA did, to take over the Republican party.
MAGA did it in one coherent direction and the progressives are fighting with themselves about how ideologically pure they are.
MAGA did it with enormous amounts of money, coming from billionaires with a plan. That’s the difference. The MAGA movement sprang out of the Tea Party, which was an astroturfed takeover by the Koch brothers and their circle of investors.
The US progressive movement is a legitimate grassroots movement. You can’t expect them all to be “on-brand”, when they aren’t all getting paid to read from the same script.
Yeah that’s why the progressives will never be effective.
You post a meme, that rightly points out how progressives are doing exactly what the Tea Party did to successfully take over the GOP…but then claim that they’ll never succeed, because they aren’t bought off by billionaires?
Lol! How does your brain even make that attempt at logic, without short-circuiting? Because reading that is pretty cringeworthy.
Have you read the comments here?
Progressives don’t need anyone but other progressives to be defeated.
2 things missing that are more important than any of that:
Endless money and the freedom to lie endlessly. When you have standards, things take longer. Doing otherwise forms a weak government akin to fascism where you need an enemy at all times.
almost as if you cant move a corporate funded party left
To be clear, David Hogg has a single issue, guns. He doesn’t give two shits about opposing Trump or supporting progressives, all he cares about is eliminating guns (understandable given the circumstance).
If Trump returned to his old stance of “take the firearms first and then go to court, you could do exactly what you’re saying, but take the guns first, go through due process second.”
https://time.com/5184160/trump-guns-due-process/?xid=homepage
Hogg would be 110% down for that.
We’re not giving up our right to self-defense, and can work with David Hogg to elect progressive Democrats and make comprehensive health care, including mental, and other appropriate social programs in place to address unnecessary violence.
David Hogg idolizes Nancy Pelosi and other corporate centrists. He’s trying to elect young corporate centrists, not progressives. He’s part of the problem.
So what? We just continue as usual? I remember an article posted yesterday about unionizing that said we need activists on board, even if we find their views farther right than we prefer. I don’t find it particularly appealing, but the time for complaining and doing nothing differently.
I’ll see if I saved the link and post it if I did. I meant to, but I’m a little tired and dealing with other issues rn
So what? We just continue as usual?
That’s exactly what David Hogg is doing: Continuing as usual. He’s reinforcing the centrist problem.
David Hogg is doing the same thing we’ve done time and again, and hoping for different results this time around.
What’s your suggestion? AOC doesn’t seem corporatist.
I didn’t say AOC was part of the problem. My criticism was limited to David Hogg.
AOC isn’t the entire solution, but she’s a big part of it.
“Guillotine Party” effectively summarizes what’s needed.
Oh. Well. I couldn’t find the article I mentioned but one of the bullet points by op said “there’s no ‘too right’ when organizing.” Obviously I immediately recoiled, but I thought about it. 1. Due to over a hundred years of heavy propagandizing United States citizens against anything slightly left of center, the public will recoil more readily to anyone branded "radical leftist/communist/socialist” while embracing the most vile Nazis. We need to stamp out the labels while organizing and focus on the people and their needs. For instance, IRL, I’ve never spoken to a (poor) teaparty or farther right voter who disagrees that our taxes shouldn’t be used to fund roads, schools, health, rather that these things were reserved for wealthy areas while we who feed the nation languish. Framing matters.
For that reason, we’re more likely to see people willing to commit treason with gallows rather than guillotines. I’d prefer due process, but we’re frankly running out of time for organizing, let alone due process.
At some point, violence will be unavoidale. That doesn’t mean unadulterated bloodlust has to be.
It’s not even that, he supports anti-gun candidates. That’s it. Whether they are Centrist or Progressive never enters into it. Will they work to ban guns? Great, full support from Hogg.
It HAPPENS to align with “removing useless Democrats”, but that’s not his agenda and it will end up with more Democrats losing in the general elections.
Remember Beto O’Rourke:
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/11/15/texas-beto-orourke-guns-2022/
This is a great example why progressives are fucking politically useless.
s/MAGA/Tea Party/g. Trump’s MAGA doesn’t get credit for that.
We do need a Guillotine Party to do the same thing to the Democrats.
David Hogg is trying to get primary challengers for some worthless old incumbents, yes. The problem is that he’s not trying to get rid of all the worthless old incumbents. He idolizes Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, and most of the corporate centrists that destroyed the party. He wants to replace old, do-nothing incumbents with young, corporate centrists, not progressives. David Hogg is part of the problem, not the solution.
Even if the tea party and MAGA are different does it matter now?
