For whom? Who really wins when the fascists leave power? The very same class of people who funded them into power in the first place, perhaps? How are the descendents of the capitalists who funded Nazi Germany and Showa Japan doing these days? How are the corporations doing that coined it during the Pinochet-regime in Chile or the Apartheid-regime in South Africa?
That is perfectly black and white.
But (true) liberalism is not fascism
At what point was liberalism not colonialist? At what point was it not capitalist? Liberalism created the systems of wealth accumulation and labour exploitation that keeps the (so-called) “1st world” rich… so who do you think they keep around to protect all of this from the people all this wealth and labour was stolen from?
I mean they only get power because people give it them, but I think it’s still the fascists who spark this process… It’s a little bit of a chicken-egg situation…
Do you really think that our wannabe-Nazi Elon is yet on the same level as Hitler? (It could develop into that, but that’s a big if)
Then you understand neither.
Oh I do as anarchist… As I say the world isn’t as black and white in reality. The goal of these both are similar: freedom. Albeit different definitions and ways to achieve it.
But it’s definitely different than fascism which is mostly centralized oppression… I.e. oppression of freedom.
I’d say it’s basically a wild mix/spectrum of different ideologies in reality.
I’d agree with (I think) at least one thing the general accepted opinion of liberalism (which is basically capitalism) is definitely leaning more towards fascism than say anarchism, but that probably also has to do with that anarchism in reality is not a model that is achievable at least so far, similar with real communism.
So not the liberals (and the capitalists that they truly represent) who can get down to “business as usual” after the fascists brutally repressed the working class for them, eh?
It’s a little bit of a chicken-egg situation
No, it isn’t.
Gustav Krupp, Wilhelm von Opel, Albert Vögler - oh-so-liberal Weimar Germany’s richest and most “respectable.” Would you qualify them as chickens or eggs?
our wannabe-Nazi Elon
Do you think that Elon will be hurt much if they fine him a measly 15% of his assets, like they did with Hitler-benefactor Fritz Thyssen?
The goal of these both are similar: freedom.
Liberalism’s aim is the freedom of the capitalist, and the indentured servitude of everyone else.
No.
For whom? Who really wins when the fascists leave power? The very same class of people who funded them into power in the first place, perhaps? How are the descendents of the capitalists who funded Nazi Germany and Showa Japan doing these days? How are the corporations doing that coined it during the Pinochet-regime in Chile or the Apartheid-regime in South Africa?
That is perfectly black and white.
At what point was liberalism not colonialist? At what point was it not capitalist? Liberalism created the systems of wealth accumulation and labour exploitation that keeps the (so-called) “1st world” rich… so who do you think they keep around to protect all of this from the people all this wealth and labour was stolen from?
Then you understand neither.
No argument here.
For their unsatisfiable thirst of power?
I mean they only get power because people give it them, but I think it’s still the fascists who spark this process… It’s a little bit of a chicken-egg situation…
Do you really think that our wannabe-Nazi Elon is yet on the same level as Hitler? (It could develop into that, but that’s a big if)
Oh I do as anarchist… As I say the world isn’t as black and white in reality. The goal of these both are similar: freedom. Albeit different definitions and ways to achieve it.
But it’s definitely different than fascism which is mostly centralized oppression… I.e. oppression of freedom.
I’d say it’s basically a wild mix/spectrum of different ideologies in reality.
I’d agree with (I think) at least one thing the general accepted opinion of liberalism (which is basically capitalism) is definitely leaning more towards fascism than say anarchism, but that probably also has to do with that anarchism in reality is not a model that is achievable at least so far, similar with real communism.
So not the liberals (and the capitalists that they truly represent) who can get down to “business as usual” after the fascists brutally repressed the working class for them, eh?
No, it isn’t.
Gustav Krupp, Wilhelm von Opel, Albert Vögler - oh-so-liberal Weimar Germany’s richest and most “respectable.” Would you qualify them as chickens or eggs?
Do you think that Elon will be hurt much if they fine him a measly 15% of his assets, like they did with Hitler-benefactor Fritz Thyssen?
Liberalism’s aim is the freedom of the capitalist, and the indentured servitude of everyone else.