• Ukraine is getting the upper hand against Russian invasion with help from allies (including Biden Admin)

Trump Admin enters the chat:

  • Calls Zelensky a dictator
  • Says Ukraine “shouldn’t have started the war”
  • Humiliates Zelensky before the world in Oval Office
  • Lies about Europe sending less aid than the US towards Ukraine
  • Profits by reinvesting a big percentage of the war aid in replenishing its own arsenal from donating nearly defunct weapons and replacing them with cutting edge gear, but claims it’s being taken advantage of
  • Begins talks with Russia without Ukraine present
  • Undermines Zelensky by attempting to manipulate his political opposition behind the scenes
  • Says Ukraine better be “ready to lose some land”
  • Implies they could shut off starlink support “if they wanted to”
  • Cuts off aid packages and strategic intel, costing Ukraine their bargaining chip in Kursk
  • Starts a trade war with the whole planet, applying tariffs on everyone except for Russia and its allies
  • Attempts to extort Ukraine for 50% of its minerals in perpetuity, in exchange for nothing
  • Signals Russia that the US is ready to cozy up to them and lift sanctions
  • Bails on Ukraine after realizing “this is harder than it seemed”

Boy, what went wrong? They did everything right since they took office. /s /s /s

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    Unfortunately, I think the best we can hope for is Trump just walking away. But knowing him, he’ll want to drop sanctions on Russia.

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    So, I agree with most of this, but under Biden the US donated and supported far more than Europe. It’s a joke to put Europe ahead of that.

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      No it didn’t. Europe ponied up mostly cash to keep the country running while the US donated arms and intelligence because they had more of it but total value Europe was ahead.

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        Yeah, it’s not all about money. But okay. Let’s erase history, just like Trump and the conservatives like to do.

        Edit: An interesting graph you may want to check out. US intelligence sharing aside, is this really the hill you want to die on?

        Ukrainian support

        Which country are you all from? One in the EU? Other?

        another graph of support

        Props to Denmark, though… Respect.

        Denmark is spending the most GDP percent on Ukraine

        Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62002218

        Source 2: https://www.statista.com/chart/amp/28489/ukrainian-military-humanitarian-and-financial-aid-donors/

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          Dude, put away the dick measuring tape. First of all, you went from comparing the US vs Europe as a whole to each individual country in Europe. The Post and percentages quoted before used Europe collectively in putting them ahead of US in total aid, which is accurate. You are now wanting to compare dollars of each European country against the US. That is obviously different.

          Second, if we are going to do that, you have to provide some context here. Yes, the US put up more actual dollars than any other individual country by a lot. But, the US is far wealthier than all of these other countries too. If you compare their contributions compared to their GDPs, though, the US is a lot less giving. It is not even in the top 5 of the countries listed in your graph. They are 8th out of 10, in fact, beating only France and Canada. Denmark in particular really stepped up and gave a considerable chunk of their GDP to Ukraine, 7.5 times as much as the US.

          Here are those actual numbers for reference:

          • Denmark | GDP 415 Billion | AID 8.1 Billion | 1.952%
          • Sweden | GDP 610 Billion | AID 5 Billion | 0.820%
          • Finland | GDP 309 Billion | AID 2.5 Billion | 0.809%
          • Netherlands | GDP 1.2 Trillion | AID 6.3 Billion | 0.525%
          • Poland | GDP 845 Billion | AID 3.9 Billion | 0.462%
          • UK | GDP 2.6 Trillion | AID 10.8 Billion | 0.415%
          • Germany | GDP 4.3 Trillion | AID 13.6 Billion | 0.316%
          • US | GDP 29.2 Trillion | AID 69 Billion | 0.236%
          • Canada | GDP 2.3 Trillion | AID 2.8 Billion | 0.122%
          • France | GDP 3.2 Trillion | AID 3.8 Billion | 0.119%